hk blues Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 17 hours ago, VictorOnopko said: Not only that, but it's well worth remembering that England with their sole major tournament win are tied with Denmark, Greece and Portugal on that number, behind fellow one-off winners the Netherlands, Czechia/oslovakia and the USSR in terms of finals reached, with those countries all having got to 4 against England's 2 (both at home). They are miles behind the "Big 7" of Brazil, W/Germany, Italy, Argentina, Uruguay, France and Spain, who have all won at least 4 and been to at least 5 finals. Germany are currently on 14 major finals and Italy on 10. Are you counting Euros but not the other regional tournaments? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 hours ago, hk blues said: Are you counting Euros but not the other regional tournaments? Wrong thread for this discussion I realise but since you asked, I counted Euros and Copa Americas (the two continents with WC winners/finalists) - bearing in mind the latter has had 47 stagings to 16 Euros, has fewer countries, and started much earlier - so for comparison's sake maybe 3 CAs to a Euro win. Obviously if WC wins are heavily weighted then England's sole win puts them =7th with Spain (with 1 major win to Spain's 4). There is no comprehensive way to order this table but there is a clear Top 7 and I would argue that the Czechs have been a bigger force in world football than England. Yours, McGlashan Team WC wins WC RU Euro/CA wins (*eqv) Euro/CA RU Total Wins Total RU Finals (WC) Argentina 3 3 15 (*5) 14 17 (*8) 17 34 (6) Brazil 5 2 9 (*3) 11 14 (*8) 13 27 (7) Germany 4 4 3 3 7 7 14 (8) Uruguay 2 0 15 (*5) 6 17 (*7) 6 23 (2) Italy 4 2 2 2 6 4 10 (6) France 2 2 2 1 4 2 7 (4) Spain 1 0 3 1 4 1 5 (1) Holland 0 3 1 0 1 3 4 (3) USSR 0 0 1 3 1 3 4 Czech/o 0 2 1 1 1 3 4 (2) England 1 0 0 1 1 1 2 (1) Portugal 0 0 1 1 1 1 2 Note: Paraguay, Chile and Peru have all won 2 CAs with 6,4 and 1 losing finals respectively. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 We need to get one of those guest invitations to the Copa America, hope the big guns have a down year, and sneak a major international tournament victory just to emphasise what colossal underachievers England are given their resources. The fact they have the same number of Tournament triumphs across their history as Denmark, a nation that was entirely amateur until 1978, AND they've hosted three Finals and done their level best to make every advantage out of that, is nothing short of hilarious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP_81 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 23 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: The fact they have the same number of Tournament triumphs across their history as Denmark, a nation that was entirely amateur until 1978, AND they've hosted three Finals and done their level best to make every advantage out of that, is nothing short of hilarious. I have well and truly made peace with the fact that they're bound to win another one soon because even when/if? they do they will still be laughably underachieving. I'm sure I had said to an English colleague during the last euros when he was winding me up about them getting to the final etc that tbh if they don't win at least 2 out of the next 4 major tournaments then it should be considered a major failure given the current crop of players and the state of the competition . That's 2 down already with nothing to show for themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Archie McSquackle Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Rangers cancelling the tickets for the Celtic supporters for their upcoming SWPL game due to a 'risk' group of supporters attending. I'm not sure what is more tinpot- cancelling the tickets, a group of fans attending a women's game intent on causing bother or their inability to deal with them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68325218 Edited February 17 by Archie McSquackle Added link 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, Archie McSquackle said: Rangers cancelling the tickets for the Celtic supporters for their upcoming SWPL game due to a 'risk' group of supporters attending. I'm not sure what is more tinpot- cancelling the tickets, a group of fans attending a women's game intent on causing bother or their inability to deal with them. Absolutely ridiculous, especially when you consider that last season, there were matches between the two with no segregation and precisely zero crowd trouble. IIRC the only trouble at one of those games last season was when the Rangers assistant manager stuck the head on the Celtic manager from behind 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 46 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said: Rangers cancelling the tickets for the Celtic supporters for their upcoming SWPL game due to a 'risk' group of supporters attending. I'm not sure what is more tinpot- cancelling the tickets, a group of fans attending a women's game intent on causing bother or their inability to deal with them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68325218 I have never heard of them doing this for the mans game........surely there have been far more instances of potential trouble makers at first team games......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I believe they don't want to pay for the policing they would have for the men's games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Not sure this is the thread for this, but Doncaster City in the 11th tier of England are on one. Currently signed a raft of retired players like Charlie Mulgrew and Ross McCormack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Willie McKay is a scumbag. I hope they fail miserably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 A 36-year-old, who was an average top flight striker in his prime, being top scorer in the Championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GordonS Posted February 17 Popular Post Share Posted February 17 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: Absolutely ridiculous, especially when you consider that last season, there were matches between the two with no segregation and precisely zero crowd trouble. IIRC the only trouble at one of those games last season was when the Rangers assistant manager stuck the head on the Celtic manager from behind 4 hours ago, Caledonian1 said: I have never heard of them doing this for the mans game........surely there have been far more instances of potential trouble makers at first team games......... Both clubs had intelligence that known troublemakers had bought tickets for the Celtic allocation. While they have designated areas, there's no actual segregation at these games. Until recently there wasn't even that, the fans sat completely mixed. They didn't have enough time to put in place the sort of policing and stewarding that would be needed without it costing a disproportionate amount. Before this happened they hadn't planned to have any police at the game at all. The clubs aren't at fault here and neither at the police. The fault here lies with the many c*nts that follow these teams, who can't be trusted to act like human beings. Because of them we end up with youth cup finals played behind closed doors - which is very tinpot - and now they're trying to ruin women's football too. Best thing would be to ban both clubs permanently, men's and women's. They bring out the worst in the worst people and ruin our national game. Edited February 17 by GordonS 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Not sure this is the thread for this, but Doncaster City in the 11th tier of England are on one. Currently signed a raft of retired players like Charlie Mulgrew and Ross McCormack. I hope they drive there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeTon Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Not sure this is the thread for this, but Doncaster City in the 11th tier of England are on one. Currently signed a raft of retired players like Charlie Mulgrew and Ross McCormack. The same mob who wanted to join the Scottish Cup. They have a hard-on for their northern neighbours, clearly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 32 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: A 36-year-old, who was an average top flight striker in his prime, being top scorer in the Championship. There's nothing tinpot about this though, Graham is a credit to himself and a perfect example of where supreme professionalism and hard work can get you in your career. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 8 minutes ago, craigkillie said: There's nothing tinpot about this though, Graham is a credit to himself and a perfect example of where supreme professionalism and hard work can get you in your career. That can be true (and is becoming increasingly common in sport, e.g. Jagr still playing in the Czech top flight at 52), whilst still making the rest of the league seem tin pot in comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 51 minutes ago, ClydeTon said: The same mob who wanted to join the Scottish Cup. They have a hard-on for their northern neighbours, clearly. Doncaster was ceded to Scotland in 1136 by King Stephen and never formally handed back. I think that was the gist of their claim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said: Doncaster was ceded to Scotland in 1136 by King Stephen and never formally handed back. I think that was the gist of their claim. They give us Berwick back and we'll maybe talk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: They give us Berwick back and we'll maybe talk. Won't we be at war with Russia? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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