FTOF Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I probably wouldn't start with this, to be honest, because this would basically be an admission that you were gaming the system by asking for a postponement, unlike Killie who actually had our entire squad missing. I wouldn't worry. That situation only existed in his tiny mind. We had several players who actually had the virus and were incapacitated by it. The rest were self-isolating as a result. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I have every faith that St Mirren aren't thick enough to be basing an appeal on "aye but they're doing it too", as though they're a bunch of daft wee school kids. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, craigkillie said: My understanding is that while players are on international duty they are considered part of a "bubble" and do not mix with the outside world. This is vastly different to the club situation where players are free to go about their normal life outside of the football environment. I have every faith that our club (and St Mirren) aren't thick enough to be basing an appeal on "aye but they're doing it too", as though they're a bunch of daft wee school kids. So the rules within an International bubble are different to a domestic bubbles socially distance rules which we were deemed to have breeched while on the team bus or pre-match meal? Edited December 9, 2020 by C4mmy31 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: Hopefully Callum Davidson recovers soon. The poor man is hallucinating and must be running an awful temperature, he's in todays press saying Zander Clark should be in the Scotland squad. Get well soon, C'lum. The full squad players may need some training partners so good for the Perth boys to volunteer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Killie and St Mirren going full Budge?Slippery slope that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Romeo said: St Mirren going full Budge? Without the slightest hint of irony, either. I'm not sure "inside St Mirren" has the same sort of appeal for the BBC though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Romeo said: Killie and St Mirren going full Budge? Slippery slope that. What we should have done was , purchase our own Covid testing machine and keep the results in house. Celtic and Rangers have been flying all over Europe for games and miraculously have recorded very few(if any) cases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 And the rest , which I'm sure will come to light during the appeal process. This isn't an appeal into the rule breaches, it's an appeal against the penalty passed down so there will be absolutely no element of having to produce evidence of wrongdoing elsewhere !An appeal will need to be based on "case law" so to speak to have any credibility. Saints and Killie will need to provide evidence that the punishment is excessive, presumably that can only be done via previous example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Munoz said: Celtic and Rangers have been flying all over Europe for games and miraculously have recorded very few(if any) cases. Do you imagine you think they're going out on the jolly after the game? UEFA will not be wanting its competitions scuppered over pish like this, so it'll be plane, bus, game, bus, plane with as little outside interaction as possible. Edited December 9, 2020 by RossBFaeDundee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: An appeal will need to be based on "case law" so to speak to have any credibility. Saints and Killie will need to provide evidence that the punishment is excessive, presumably that can only be done via previous example. The only similar example of a 3-0 forfeit, I'm aware of, is Napoli deducted 1 point because they refused to travel, under instruction of their local health authority. Their case is also set for appeal btw. Unless your aware of another example of points awarded or deducted? Based on the above, I'd say the punishment handed down by the SPFL is excessive within the rest of Europe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: The only similar example of a 3-0 forfeit, I'm aware of, is Napoli deducted 1 point because they refused to travel, under instruction of their local health authority. Their case is also set for appeal btw. Unless your aware of another example of points awarded or deducted? Based on the above, I'd say the punishment handed down by the SPFL is excessive within the rest of Europe. Are the Killie and St Mirren guys on here going to come up with your own “8gamestogo” type spokesperson? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, C4mmy31 said: So the rules within an International bubble are different to a domestic bubbles socially distance rules which we were deemed to have breeched while on the team bus or pre-match meal? Yes, I think so, in the same way that you're allowed to sit next to people in your household. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Szamo's_Ammo Posted December 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Are the Killie and St Mirren guys on here going to come up with your own “8gamestogo” type spokesperson? I'm hearing that Tony Fitzpatrick is in the process of signing up to Pie and Bovril. He's been stuck at the "Select all squares with traffic lights" screen for the last 4 hours but he's getting there. 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Are the Killie and St Mirren guys on here going to come up with your own “8gamestogo” type spokesperson? Why not? You guys have your own 8gamestogo in Dave Cormack afterall, banging the same old tired drum, to anybody who'll listen to him, about lack of fans/money through the gates etc.... Edited December 9, 2020 by C4mmy31 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 #6pointstoplayfor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: Why not? You guys have your own 8gamestogo in Dave Cormack afterall, banging the same old tired drum, to anybody who'll listen to him, about lack of fans/money through the gates etc.... Is he getting to you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Ric said: Jesus, talk about tackling the man rather than the ball. Holocaust deniers should have their hateful, abhorrent views brought up at every opportunity. 1 hour ago, C4mmy31 said: The only similar example of a 3-0 forfeit, I'm aware of, is Napoli deducted 1 point because they refused to travel, under instruction of their local health authority. Their case is also set for appeal btw. Unless your aware of another example of points awarded or deducted? Based on the above, I'd say the punishment handed down by the SPFL is excessive within the rest of Europe. What rules have Napoli admitted to breaching? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: What rules have Napoli admitted to breaching? Thats not whats being challenged thou is it.... its the severity of the punishment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Holocaust deniers should have their hateful, abhorrent views brought up at every opportunity. Is that why people are getting a bit pissed at my comment. I'm clearly not defending anyone who would say such a thing, the whole post though is pretty shoddy even for RG. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ric said: Is that why people are getting a bit pissed at my comment. I'm clearly not defending anyone who would say such a thing, the whole post though is pretty shoddy even for RG. Wisbit was banned off this site after outing himself as a holocaust denier, and having a multi-day, multi-thread, homophobic meltdown towards one poster. Forgive me for not giving a single f**k about his feelings. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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