G51 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: I don't think that's true. Get jabbed and minimise the risk of a substantial further disruption, is more like it. Anyone assuming after the last 21 months that this would all be over on the administration of the first booster really hasn't been paying attention. But not everyone is paying attention. Lots of people don’t want or are able to follow the intricacies of COVID/politics/whatever. People can rewrite history if they like, but there’s no doubt that people were incentivised to take the vaccine on the basis that they’d get their social life back in return. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, G51 said: Clubs will follow the decision because they have no choice. If we tried to get into a fight with the government we’d lose pretty decisively. I’d agree that this is going to piss people off who were borderline on getting the vaccine. The deal was, pretty explicitly, if you took the vaccine you’d get your social life back. If the government backtrack on that, why would people trust you next time? 'We' would suggest your club works with the rest as a collective. Little evidence of that lately.... However snide dig from me aside, you are right. If the clubs take on the government, there is only one winner. If someone is borderline getting a vaccine and don't because of this, then they are an idiot frankly. I'd suggest there will be very few people in that boat anyway. The deal to get the vaccine and get our lives back was correct at the time. It also was dependent on both the vast majority getting it (which there has been) and also there was no big changes in the virus, which there has been. IF the predictions are right and that it is not as deadly as the previous version, which shows in hospital admissions and illness, then if after 3 weeks we don't see some easing of restrictions, I'd be unhappy. But given where we are and the uncertainties, then I'd rather we were over cautious. Given there is no summer tournament, then a few weeks delay now doesn't really create issues. Especially when you factor in that in years gone by (and weeks gone by) we tend to loose a round or two of fixtures at this time of season anyway. Loosing what 2 games for each team due to weather wouldn't kill them off, so why would this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, Jinky67 said: Which explains why Wales have done it before us. Ah, so that makes it all okay. Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Kin'ell boys! Some right heads gone and tin foil hat shite goin' on. The decision has been made, the SPFL just have to move the break forward 1 week and nothing is missed, no revenue is lost. Fuckin' right lunatics on here the day. Spot on. And if the SPFL had anything about them () they'd have planned for the possibility of this happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Kin'ell boys! Some right heads gone and tin foil hat shite goin' on. The decision has been made, the SPFL just have to move the break forward 1 week and nothing is missed, no revenue is lost. Fuckin' right lunatics on here the day. Replacing Boxing Day and New Year games with a couple of Tuesday nights in February absolutely will have an impact on revenue, that's even without the lost time and effort having to deal with postponing games at less than a week's notice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, G51 said: But not everyone is paying attention. Lots of people don’t want or are able to follow the intricacies of COVID/politics/whatever. People can rewrite history if they like, but there’s no doubt that people were incentivised to take the vaccine on the basis that they’d get their social life back in return. This. Folk are angry that they have done everything asked but now face even more restrictions. And it stings even harder when it seems like restrictions are being brought in with little evidence that 1. they are necessary and 2. that they reduce Covid. Sport in particular seems very safe compared to a whole lot of other areas that have gone untouched. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: Bottom line this is a political move and not about public health. Fooling nobody but the base Nicola hen and some of them are waking up. Fuckin give it a rest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, G51 said: But not everyone is paying attention. Lots of people don’t want or are able to follow the intricacies of COVID/politics/whatever. People can rewrite history if they like, but there’s no doubt that people were incentivised to take the vaccine on the basis that they’d get their social life back in return. The problem isn’t the majority who got vaccinated, it’s the selfish minority who refuse to get vaccinated. If vaccination was closer to 100% then then there would be far less likelihood of restrictions. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, craigkillie said: Replacing Boxing Day and New Year games with a couple of Tuesday nights in February absolutely will have an impact on revenue, that's even without the lost time and effort having to deal with postponing games at less than a week's notice. Being selfish.... Not the Derby's it won't, New Year or a Tuesday it will still be packed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Fuckin give it a rest. I wish she would my dear Krankie. I wish she would 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: The problem isn’t the majority who got vaccinated, it’s the selfish minority who refuse to get vaccinated. If vaccination was closer to 100% then then there would be far less likelihood of restrictions. Given that omicron spread seems to be primarily driven by immune escape, I don’t think this is right. We’d be seeing significant spread even with 100% vaccine coverage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: The problem isn’t the majority who got vaccinated, it’s the selfish minority who refuse to get vaccinated. If vaccination was closer to 100% then then there would be far less likelihood of restrictions. How is it the fault of the unvaccinated, when the vaccine doesn't work for Omicron? If this was the case you could use yer passport still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: Ah, so that makes it all okay. Thanks. No but it does make your theories on why it has been done to be utter dug shite but what's new there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snifter Pee Rot Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: This. Folk are angry that they have done everything asked but now face even more restrictions. And it stings even harder when it seems like restrictions are being brought in with little evidence that 1. they are necessary and 2. that they reduce Covid. Sport in particular seems very safe compared to a whole lot of other areas that have gone untouched. I'm hearing But Europe despite them being miles behind in vaccinations. Draconian measures here and vaccination rates are mutually exclusive per this SG. Edited December 21, 2021 by Snifter Pee Rot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: I wish she would my dear Krankie. I wish she would I'd love to know what 'Krankie ' refers to in this instance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ropy Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Let’s get the games on for Saturday, 4pm start to allow for ‘Christmas lunch’. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, johnnydun said: How is it the fault of the unvaccinated, when the vaccine doesn't work for Omicron? If this was the case you could use yer passport still. Are you serious? Vaccines don’t eliminate Covid but they reduce the likelihood of infection and the intensity. Boosters, which are now widely available, offer far greater protection. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: This. Folk are angry that they have done everything asked but now face even more restrictions. And it stings even harder when it seems like restrictions are being brought in with little evidence that 1. they are necessary and 2. that they reduce Covid. Sport in particular seems very safe compared to a whole lot of other areas that have gone untouched. Absolutely. And a lot of this failing is down to government communication (not just ScotGov, all Western governments have been really bad at this). Show us why this is going to work. If you can’t, why are you doing this? And what’s the threshold for reversing these restrictions? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, G51 said: Absolutely. And a lot of this failing is down to government communication (not just ScotGov, all Western governments have been really bad at this). Show us why this is going to work. If you can’t, why are you doing this? And what’s the threshold for reversing these restrictions? I think the problem (for all govts) is that they dont really know whats going to work. As evidenced with the French travel ban on us. They thought it would buy them a couple of weeks and it turns out that Omicron is raging over there (despite mandatory masks even outdoor cafes etc, more stringent vaccine passport requirements etc). Our lot are trying to get us to stay in a bit more, and not mingle - on buses / tubes / trains etc, hence all these restrictions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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