Greenacres Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Kelheart said: , The game at Stirling is huge and may swing the momentum for one of them , I genuinely think Annan have enough about them to pull it off and stay safe so one of SA or QoS for me at this stage That is my worry about the Stirling game they play a physical game we have players who disappear when the going gets tough . Stirling will be 100 % up for the game some of our players will not. I really can see all teams level next Saturday night still think Queens don't have the desire or bottle to keep away from 9th . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayemphoto Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Hope this answers the question: Kelty Hearts 1-0 Stirling Albion Full match gallery HERE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 4 hours ago, Greenacres said: That is my worry about the Stirling game they play a physical game we have players who disappear when the going gets tough . Stirling will be 100 % up for the game some of our players will not. I really can see all teams level next Saturday night still think Queens don't have the desire or bottle to keep away from 9th . Like a broken record 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Back from a weekend away……I’m now sh-ing myself 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Damning reading for qos and albion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 13/04/2024 at 19:21, DoonhamerDon said: Assuming both Stirling and Annan beat Edinburgh then we're all level really and it will be a straight shootout from the other games Edinburgh had a good result to beat Montrose tonight. Maybe Annan and Stirling both beating Edinburgh isn't the certainty that many are assuming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WattersIsGod Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I'm taking taking nothing for granted. Players still need to turn up and put in a performance. Im hopeful that they can but I'm certainly not looking at it as 3 points in the bag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the philosopher Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 9 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: Edinburgh had a good result to beat Montrose tonight. Maybe Annan and Stirling both beating Edinburgh isn't the certainty that many are assuming. Agreed but similarly the Cove defeat by Annan on Saturday and tonight's Montrose defeat makes both those teams games against Queens more vital in the chase for play off points. Tougher games for Queens. At the end of the day it's down to your owns teams attitude and application - sprinkle in a little luck too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bod Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Annan are on a good run of form ATM, very important especially at this stage of the season. Feel our 3 games will all be about fight, desire and leadership, that's what really frightens me about most of our lot and our leader! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 hours ago, Distant Doonhamer said: Edinburgh had a good result to beat Montrose tonight. Maybe Annan and Stirling both beating Edinburgh isn't the certainty that many are assuming. 9 hours ago, WattersIsGod said: I'm taking taking nothing for granted You and me both 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonhamerDon Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 14 hours ago, Distant Doonhamer said: Edinburgh had a good result to beat Montrose tonight. Maybe Annan and Stirling both beating Edinburgh isn't the certainty that many are assuming. In the context of fighting to stay up I want us to be assuming that Annan and Stirling have those 3 points locked in. Any slip up would be a massive bonus obviously but it needs to be seen as that. If we are relying on other sides slipping up to that extent then we really are in trouble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, DoonhamerDon said: In the context of fighting to stay up I want us to be assuming that Annan and Stirling have those 3 points locked in. Any slip up would be a massive bonus obviously but it needs to be seen as that. If we are relying on other sides slipping up to that extent then we really are in trouble. Yep, not for a moment suggesting we should remotely be relying on this. Just making the point that it wouldn't be the major shock that some are suggesting if one of Annan or Stirling don't beat Edinburgh. Edited April 17 by Distant Doonhamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) As most people have predicted, Kelty have pulled themselves from trouble Some absolutely massive head-to-heads in the remaining fixtures between the other three: Cove Rangers vs Alloa Athletic Edinburgh City vs Annan Athletic Falkirk vs Kelty Hearts Montrose vs Hamilton Academical Stirling Albion vs Queen of the South Alloa Athletic vs Hamilton Academical Annan Athletic vs Falkirk Edinburgh City vs Stirling Albion Kelty Hearts vs Montrose Queen of the South vs Cove Rangers Cove Rangers vs Edinburgh City Falkirk vs Alloa Athletic Hamilton vs Kelty Hearts Montrose vs Queen of the South Stirling Albion vs Annan Athletic Looking at how results might pan out it may well all come down to goal difference between two teams or possibly all three. Stirling would appear to be at a clear disadvantage in that regard, and the -16 just from their two visits to Falkirk and Hamilton isn't looking too clever now I reckon whoever finishes 9th will have too much for the League 2 sides, though having to negotiate two 2-legged ties just to stay in the same division always feels pretty perilous Edited April 18 by NavyBlueArmy1876 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Continuing to grasp wildly at any last pathetic straw available ... I think one thing that may be in Queens favour is that two of the remaining three games are away from Palmerston where our truly appalling home record (Embra and Annan aside) offers the square root of SFA hope regardless of the opposition. So saturday's game at Stirling is our huge opportunity - win it and I think we'll be fine, lose it and it's a case of ... "Achtung iceberg" ...! [By way of explanation - I had the dubious pleasure of watching Titanic overdubbed in German multiple times on TV a few years ago whilst working abroad ... sorry, in advance.] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 14 minutes ago, NavyBlueArmy1876 said: I reckon whoever finishes 9th will have too much for the League 2 sides Dumbarton are unbeaten in their last 5, winning 4 and drawing 1, with 4 straight clean sheets. Peterhead are also unbeaten in their last 5 and have a knack for stealing important goals late in games. Dumbarton have also already put 5 past Annan in the Scottish Cup this season. As I've said previously it may well be that 9th stays up but I think the League 2 sides will put up a very good fight and it's a brave man that calls it before a ball is kicked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Dumbarton are unbeaten in their last 5, winning 4 and drawing 1, with 4 straight clean sheets. Peterhead are also unbeaten in their last 5 and have a knack for stealing important goals late in games. Dumbarton have also already put 5 past Annan in the Scottish Cup this season. As I've said previously it may well be that 9th stays up but I think the League 2 sides will put up a very good fight and it's a brave man that calls it before a ball is kicked. No way I'd be confident of a 9th placed side winning through the playoffs (of course it does/can happen) because a lot of it is about momentum and confidence - you have lower league sides who are generally (as you correctly point out) used to winning and now playing a side that's low on confidence, under pressure and finding wins hard to come by. That often levels up any perceived difference in quality - not that I'd imagine there is much difference in quality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 28 minutes ago, NavyBlueArmy1876 said: I reckon whoever finishes 9th will have too much for the League 2 sides, though having to negotiate two 2-legged ties just to stay in the same division always feels pretty perilous Every season I read this from people...and I'm not sure how they think that. Since the Play Offs were introduced, I tend to find the team with the most momentum are the one that achieves the aim. It's not fool proof of course, but as a generalisation. 10 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: So saturday's game at Stirling is our huge opportunity - win it and I think we'll be fine, lose it and it's a case of ... "Achtung iceberg" ...! Would have to agree with you on this one, a win for you and I think it would come down to ourselves and Annan. I really don't want this threat to go to the last day, so I hope you crumble on Saturday but I'm sure both teams will be up for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) Looking at how the 9th place side have faired historically (red for relegated) since the play-offs were introduced, there is around a 70% chance they are doomed. Three of the five that did survive were then relegated the following season. The other two were also relegated within 5 years. Seems like it might be a bit cursed actually and 9th would be best avoided at all costs 05/06 Alloa Athletic 06/07 Stranraer 07/08 Cowdenbeath 08/09 Queens Park 09/10 Arbroath 10/11 Alloa Athletic 11/12 Albion Rovers 12/13 East Fife 13/14 East Fife 14/15 Stenhousemuir 15/16 Cowdenbeath 16/17 Peterhead 17/18 Queens Park 18/19 Stenhousemuir 19/20 No play-off (Covid-19) 20/21 Dumbarton 21/22 Dumbarton 22/23 Clyde Edited April 18 by NavyBlueArmy1876 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, BB_Bino said: I'm sure both teams will be up for it. If it boils down to which team is more "up for it" we might as well not bother. Bartley expects his players to be automatons, follow the game plan to a T, I doubt that he does rousing speeches that instils a bit of fire in their bellies, and it's a fair bet he'll tinker about again with defence or formation, he just can't help himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, The Moonster said: Dumbarton are unbeaten in their last 5, winning 4 and drawing 1, with 4 straight clean sheets. Peterhead are also unbeaten in their last 5 and have a knack for stealing important goals late in games. Dumbarton have also already put 5 past Annan in the Scottish Cup this season. As I've said previously it may well be that 9th stays up but I think the League 2 sides will put up a very good fight and it's a brave man that calls it before a ball is kicked. The promotion place-off side will put up a better fight than us. If we finish 9th we may as well start planning for L2. No chance we'll win the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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