Stellaboz Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 A penny goes a long way 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Brilliant Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 In other news, i long to see video of this goal flying in 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Big T what a fucking legend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stellaboz said: A penny goes a long way True,every penny counts Look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves Edited April 18, 2018 by Rovers_Lad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mince Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 10 hours ago, SuperHans said: He didn't play much for us and if we're all being honest, there's not many Raith and who recognised just how good a player he was. I'm sure if the details hadn't been released of his move then we'd all be thinking that getting something for him is a lot better than getting nothing. Problem was nobody really notices the defence unless they really make a mess of things. Also being ginger and filling in for Thomson there's a good chance some of our lot never even noticed the switch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHans Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Problem was nobody really notices the defence unless they really make a mess of things. Also being ginger and filling in for Thomson there's a good chance some of our lot never even noticed the switch [emoji4] Very true. If it wasn't for the unsettled Rangers situation and their injuries this season, there's every chance Bates would never have been given his chance. He would have either been released or offered a contract extension which he likely would have accepted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 56 minutes ago, SuperHans said: If it wasn't for the unsettled Rangers situation and their injuries this season, there's every chance Bates would never have been given his chance. All Hail The Rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Sinton quoted in the FFP today regarding the new pitch. We are going for a woven pitch similar to Falkirk's with the contract for installation currently out to tender. The pitch will be 2m longer but there is no need for it to be widened. If we end up in the play offs we may need to move our home league cup group matches elsewhere but it sounds as though it should be ready for the league season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 9 hours ago, SuperHans said: Very true. If it wasn't for the unsettled Rangers situation and their injuries this season, there's every chance Bates would never have been given his chance. He would have either been released or offered a contract extension which he likely would have accepted. It still does not excuse the fact that our board gave David Bates to Sevco for nothing. And even worse, tried to cover it up. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Sinton quoted in the FFP today regarding the new pitch. We are going for a woven pitch similar to Falkirk's with the contract for installation currently out to tender. The pitch will be 2m longer but there is no need for it to be widened. If we end up in the play offs we may need to move our home league cup group matches elsewhere but it sounds as though it should be ready for the league season. In terms of actual surface, Falkirk’s has probably been the best I’ve seen in person. It can’t be a dissimilar age to Alloa’s current one, maybe even older, but the pitch was poor at best on our visit to the Recs in January. Whether that’s down to type of pitch, quality of upkeep or anything else I’ve no idea. Losing LC games can only be a massive blow though. Surely no chance we’re making any money at all by the time we pay East Fife, and split the gate receipts? In addition to not having any home friendlies. That’s where this whole ‘separate budget’ thing overlaps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Paco said: In terms of actual surface, Falkirk’s has probably been the best I’ve seen in person. It can’t be a dissimilar age to Alloa’s current one, maybe even older, but the pitch was poor at best on our visit to the Recs in January. Whether that’s down to type of pitch, quality of upkeep or anything else I’ve no idea. Losing LC games can only be a massive blow though. Surely no chance we’re making any money at all by the time we pay East Fife, and split the gate receipts? In addition to not having any home friendlies. That’s where this whole ‘separate budget’ thing overlaps. Alloa's pitch is under two years old, Falkirk's is way older. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, Beachbum said: It still does not excuse the fact that our board gave David Bates to Sevco for nothing. And even worse, tried to cover it up. Exactly. They could have demanded a fee with a sell on / development clause inserted. Just like Hamilton did with James McCarthy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHans Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 It still does not excuse the fact that our board gave David Bates to Sevco for nothing. And even worse, tried to cover it up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we didn't actually give Bates away for nothing. Hardie loan, Thompson loan extension and Roberts on a free on top of a sell on clause or development fee. Although the players didn't work out in our favour you just have to look at where Hardie and Thompson are playing this season to see how much potential they had. Hardie scored some important goals for us but ultimately it was the management that didn't get the best out of them. I will concede that Roberts was gash but if we had stayed up last season the deal wouldn't have looked quite as bad. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R.FC Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, SuperHans said: Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we didn't actually give Bates away for nothing. Hardie loan, Thompson loan extension and Roberts on a free on top of a sell on clause or development fee. Although the players didn't work out in our favour you just have to look at where Hardie and Thompson are playing this season to see how much potential they had. Hardie scored some important goals for us but ultimately it was the management that didn't get the best out of them. I will concede that Roberts was gash but if we had stayed up last season the deal wouldn't have looked quite as bad. That may be a plausible argument if it wasn’t for the fact we’d already had Thompson and Roberts for the first half of the season and it was clear to everyone at the time of the deal that they were both total wasters that added zero value. It was and always will be a terrible deal, no other way to dress it up. The benefit we’re apparently due now is nothing to do with the deal negotiated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baillieinleeds Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Saturday Is absolutely imperative, we have to pull out all the stops. But if it is the play offs, then so be it. Stranraer showed they aren’t push overs as they despatched a very good Ayr side. COYR please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHans Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 That may be a plausible argument if it wasn’t for the fact we’d already had Thompson and Roberts for the first half of the season and it was clear to everyone at the time of the deal that they were both total wasters that added zero value. It was and always will be a terrible deal, no other way to dress it up. The benefit we’re apparently due now is nothing to do with the deal negotiated. It's a fair point but Thompson had shown some kind of ability and the BoD gave the call to the manager who obviously felt that they were good enough. I think the fact that Thompson is playing with a club that's second in the same league shows that he wasn't a complete dud. Roberts on the other hand is at Annan which shows how good he has been since. The deal hasn't worked in our favour for a number of reasons. Had the players we'd got in return provided a season saving impact, had the club taken the money instead (whatever it was that might have been in the table), maybe if Rangers had managed to agree his contract terms then all of this would pan out a bit different. Lots of speculation and not much solid fact to prove anything yet. Who knows maybe Young and the boys have pulled off a blinder and we'll all be due our chairman an apology... [emoji28][emoji28][emoji28] -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typicalrovers Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Any more of that pish Martin and we’ll shout for your dad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Thompson has started 5 matches for Livingston, while Hardie has started 12 in the same time frame. The reason for this is that Hardie is more than competent at Championship level while Thompson isn't really up to it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, SuperHans said: It's a fair point but Thompson had shown some kind of ability and the BoD gave the call to the manager who obviously felt that they were good enough. I think the fact that Thompson is playing with a club that's second in the same league shows that he wasn't a complete dud. Roberts on the other hand is at Annan which shows how good he has been since. The deal hasn't worked in our favour for a number of reasons. Had the players we'd got in return provided a season saving impact, had the club taken the money instead (whatever it was that might have been in the table), maybe if Rangers had managed to agree his contract terms then all of this would pan out a bit different. Lots of speculation and not much solid fact to prove anything yet. Who knows maybe Young and the boys have pulled off a blinder and we'll all be due our chairman an apology... I’m not slagging you here, but could you clarify whether it’s the 14 year old son or the dad using the SuperHans account at the moment? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 hours ago, SuperHans said: Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we didn't actually give Bates away for nothing. Hardie loan, Thompson loan extension and Roberts on a free on top of a sell on clause or development fee. Although the players didn't work out in our favour you just have to look at where Hardie and Thompson are playing this season to see how much potential they had. Hardie scored some important goals for us but ultimately it was the management that didn't get the best out of them. I will concede that Roberts was gash but if we had stayed up last season the deal wouldn't have looked quite as bad. ......aye and if your granny had baws. Almost everyone Raith minded who still wasn't willing to admit failure under GL finally knew when St Mirren gubbed us in Paisley that that (staying up) wasn't going to happen. The only ones unable to see that Hughes had lost the dressing room and was going to relegate us were the poor myopic fools in the board room who's continued poor choices were the reason we were and where we now are. As has been said countless times The Bates deal was and still remains a stupidly poor deal. It was eclipsed by the deal to loan Vaughan to Sons but other than that not at all unlike many of the decisions made in the underground lair at SP over the last 2 seasons. Not one director has had the balls to hold up their hands and admit their culpability in the choices of recent seasons were poor. Alan (rich tea) Young takes the biscuit though, he came out on Raith Tv and still wouldn't admit that Lock was a bad choice even when we were relegated. We should hook poor TH up to the national grid as he must rotating at very high speed in his grave, the revenue from the energy generated would pay for a new stadium never mind a plastic pitch! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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