Bairnardo Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Today wasnt great but certainly nothing to piss the pants about. Like I said in the match thread, its wee tweaks to better play to strengths IMO. The system needs to work for a big guy up top because that is likely to be a constant between Haber and Mackin. Greenwood getting fit will hopefully free up Lewis to go up front and I think Robson/Greenwood on the left would be night and day to today. McGhee could then move to RB where he is an upgrade on Aero. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) I think today showed we still lack quality. I'd be looking to accelerate efforts to get rid of Harris, McKee and Shepherd. I'd also try and cut Turner's loan short and move on O'Hara and Froxy because there's no point us having players who can't even make the bench. That should free up funds to bring in a few pieces of experience and quality. Edited August 4, 2018 by EdiBairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge of allan bairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Hartley needs to stop fucking around with formations. We can all see that a 442 with Lewis and a big guy up front is the best we can do at the moment. So assuming everyone is fit for the next game I concur with this side. only slight change I'd make might be petravious he needs to be more direct if he wants to keep getting a game. looks bereft of confidence. with speed like that hit and run hit and run. one up top was useless today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG.Colossus Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: I though Dallison and Aero were really poor today. Need to give the team time to gel though. Absolutely in terms of gelling, but we're clearly weakening ourselves by continuing to shoehorn centre-backs in full-back areas. The full defensive line looked petrified to do anything with the ball and just hoofed it wherever they could. Defensively, they looked disorganised and well off the pace, they'll struggle against a decent striker. Harrison seems like a complete bombscare but it's still early days. The Don seems to be making something relatively simple such as picking a back 4 in their most comfortable positions seem like neurosurgery... Robson--Dallison--McGhee--SIGN A RIGHT BACK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, EdiBairn said: I think today showed we still lack quality. I'd be looking to accelerate efforts to get rid of Harris, McKee and Shepherd. I'd also try and cut Turner's loan short and move on O'Hara and Froxy because there's no point us having players who can't even make the bench. That should free up funds to bring in a few pieces of experience and quality. Much as I'd love to get rid of those guys, they are all going to sit on their arses contracts until the end of the season. For all Turner has shown, we could send him home and not notice. I'f Turner goes, O'Hara would probably have to be the last resort striker. Froxy won't be going anywhere, he's said himself he's been hampered by niggles all preseason. He'll likely have some part to play as we go on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestfieldBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Really, really poor at times. Beyond belief how the goal was disallowed and the fact it took so long for him to do it, even though I’m certain he was talked into it by half the ICT team. Irving was a standout. Really really good I felt. Haber did well too. Harrison, McGhee and Dallison were awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, bridge of allan bairn said: 37 minutes ago, DeeBairn said: Hartley needs to stop fucking around with formations. We can all see that a 442 with Lewis and a big guy up front is the best we can do at the moment. So assuming everyone is fit for the next game I concur with this side. only slight change I'd make might be petravious he needs to be more direct if he wants to keep getting a game. looks bereft of confidence. with speed like that hit and run hit and run. one up top was useless today Two up front occupies the centre halfs, then Petra and whoever is the Left Winger are one on one with the fullback when there is a long ball needing chasing. If we are going to go direct, anyway. Might be the best way to play him as from what I've seen he doesn't look confident beating people face on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge of allan bairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I think Hartley got it wrong today. I don't see why he won't play Robson at left back when did so well there last season. playing haber so isolated didn't work and Greenwood looked more effective than Lewis in hi brief cameo at left wing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, DeeBairn said: Much as I'd love to get rid of those guys, they are all going to sit on their arses contracts until the end of the season. For all Turner has shown, we could send him home and not notice. I'f Turner goes, O'Hara would probably have to be the last resort striker. Froxy won't be going anywhere, he's said himself he's been hampered by niggles all preseason. He'll likely have some part to play as we go on. If we got rid of Turner, O'Hara and Shepherd, we'd still have Lewis, Mackin and Haber upfront. I think those 3 wages(plus Harris and Mckee's if they could be moved out) could get us 1 or 2 pieces of quality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1st half - Not any better, but not any worse. Sneck scored with their only chance, off a mistake when Harrison was drawn out to follow Austin & Muirhead was forced to cover him. Better 2nd half, goal chalked off due to Sneck players fouling the goalscorer! Thought we lost something when TOE went off, Petra being a more worthy candidate for the swap. Think TOE & Irvine could develop a partnership in the middle, leaving Paton to provide the dig. Both Lewis & Petra should be encouraged to take full backs on, as they seemed a bit reticent to do so. Haber was decent, with an ability to hold the ball up & lay it off &, if properly supported, could really be effective.More to look forward to than not & an improvement on last season's 1st game. When the wheels fell off after 20 mins.Finally, anybody that has ideas that we will win the division, has got rocks in their head. 4th us the target & this'll take weeks to gel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, EdiBairn said: If we got rid of Turner, O'Hara and Shepherd, we'd still have Lewis, Mackin and Haber upfront. I think those 3 wages(plus Harris and Mckee's if they could be moved out) could get us 1 or 2 pieces of quality. We'd still need to hold on to someone, O'Hara likely, until we knew we were getting another striker in, as we'd run the risk of having only three strikers and i doubt theres anyone in the reserves or whatever we are calling it this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 At least the days not been a total flop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn Necessities Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Tend to agree. Dont look remotely like our last few Div 1 winning sides. This looks more like the Hughes season at Ochilview. Bite yer airms off for 4th 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Off- topic but I have to say the match programmes this season and last haven't been up to much. While they look better than previous, there's virtually no content to actually read. There used to be a number of columns and features etc, which is the least I'd expect for £3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Bairn Necessities said: Tend to agree. Dont look remotely like our last few Div 1 winning sides. This looks more like the Hughes season at Ochilview. Bite yer airms off for 4th I'd bite yer arse for fifth if we keep playing Aero at RB, tbf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge of allan bairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Off- topic but I have to say the match programmes this season and last haven't been up to much. While they look better than previous, there's virtually no content to actually read. There used to be a number of columns and features etc, which is the least I'd expect for £3.this. wonder if they'll bother to put a league table in this season. I buy them because I collect them and always have done but it's rubbish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkzombie Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Wasnt great but wasny terribleIrving was our best player by a mile, Petra should never taker cornersLike the thot of haber n lewis up front in a 2Greenwood looked good when came onUnless muirhead plays CH he should not play, cant quite beleive we r still fuckin about wi him at RB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 The thing is there are clear and obvious improvments to be made which, if Hartley sees them and makes them next week, I think we could be decent.McGhee to RB, Robson to start. CH pairing from Aero Dallison or Harrison.Drop Paton, start Greenwood, put Lewis up top with Haber. I think its bordering on self explanatory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Think Hartley needs to play Robson at left back, either Dallison, Harrison or Muirhead in the centre and McGhee at right back. Settle on a back 4 and unless we get injuries or suspensions stop fucking with the defence. It's the only way they will gel and build an understanding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdiBairn Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Bairnardo said: The thing is there are clear and obvious improvments to be made which, if Hartley sees them and makes them next week, I think we could be decent. McGhee to RB, Robson to start. CH pairing from Aero Dallison or Harrison. Drop Paton, start Greenwood, put Lewis up top with Haber. I think its bordering on self explanatory. But these things have been clear and obvious throughout pre-season and longer. Whenever we've played 1 upfront, the striker has been too isolated. Robson played well at left back for 6 months last season, and Muirhead hasn't been good enough at right back for 4 seasons(which is why Hartley himself brought in Tumilty to replace him last season) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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