The Falkirk FC Thread

[gav-ffc]

5 minutes ago, Tea and Busquets said:

Spoke with a guy today at the game who owns a few businesses around the town and he said he contacted Jamie at the club about how much it would have been to keep Griffiths and he would have paid his wages in full, not costing the club a penny. The club refused (unsure if this was Jamie/BOD or John McGlynn). 

Thank f**k.

[PedroMoutinho]

10 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:

So don’t bother with looking to the future again? Are you Margaret Laing? 

The future will be an indefinite stay in league 1 unless resources are used to bring in better quality for the starting 11. Didn’t you criticise the previous board for spending money on the youth development squads?

Edited July 9, 2022 by PedroMoutinho

[ebobsboy]

Honest assessment by McGlynn in post match interview. Quite refreshing in the sense he isn't  slavering  a lot of pish like his predecessors. Sounded a little frustrated that  he doesn't have the numbers or quality he wants at least not yet. Hopefully that gets rectified soon.  

[Guest Brockvillenomore]

5 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

The future will be an indefinite stay in league 1 unless resources are used to bring in better quality for the starting 11

 

[knee jerk reaction]

11 minutes ago, Tea and Busquets said:

Spoke with a guy today at the game who owns a few businesses around the town and he said he contacted Jamie at the club about how much it would have been to keep Griffiths and he would have paid his wages in full, not costing the club a penny. The club refused (unsure if this was Jamie/BOD or John McGlynn). 

If the guy gave Griffiths some money and worked from now till January with a personal trainer and some training at the stadium with our team then he might be worth a punt in January if not and assuming the guy you spoke to knows something about football then he'd be better giving the club money for someone else (or two players)

[Kevin James Left Knee]

20 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Except all of the directors are patrons…

Ok if you don't like what you see then if you are a member of FSS then stand for election to the Board - the nominations open tomorrow. But here's the thing - you'll have to say who you are and not post behind the haze of anonymity that P&B allows everyone.  

[Guest Brockvillenomore]

1 minute ago, knee jerk reaction said:

If the guy gave Griffiths some money and worked from now till January with a personal trainer and some training at the stadium with our team then he might be worth a punt in January if not and assuming the guy you spoke to knows something about football then he'd be better giving the club money for someone else (or two players)

I can’t see that happening tbh. A supporter that generous would still support the club and finance a player or players the manager actually wanted. Or am I missing something? 

[PedroMoutinho]

2 minutes ago, Kevin James Left Knee said:

Ok if you don't like what you see then if you are a member of FSS then stand for election to the Board - the nominations open tomorrow. But here's the thing - you'll have to say who you are and not post behind the haze of anonymity that P&B allows everyone.  

Personally I have no interest in being a director but to me it’s not good for corporate governance or decision making to have a supposed 3 legged stool model but where all directors are members of one group.

[Guest Brockvillenomore]

12 hours ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Personally I have no interest in being a director but to me it’s not good for corporate governance or decision making to have a supposed 3 legged stool model but where all directors are members of one group.

There are only groups in your mind. It’s this sort of attitude that’s poisoning the club. FSS, Patrons even the major shareholders, all involved are Falkirk supporters. 

Edited July 10, 2022 by Brockvillenomore

[LatapyBairn.]

30 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

The future will be an indefinite stay in league 1 unless resources are used to bring in better quality for the starting 11. Didn’t you criticise the previous board for spending money on the youth development squads?

What recourses? By all accounts the playing budget is actually larger than it was last season and will most likely be if not the largest pretty close to the largest in the division.  it’s just unfortunate the previous regime has hamstrung the club with so many poor players on long term contracts tying a lot of that cash up, I trust McGlynn to eventualy move a few on and get a few in but it won’t happen overnight and we simply can’t rush in and sign any old shite again this season with the remaining budget we do have available, it will most likely be into August before McGlynn finalises his squad. 

Edited July 9, 2022 by LatapyBairn.

[RC55 FFC]

Hopefully a decent crowd on Tuesday night. The bigger the crowd plus the near on £20k for TV money will all be useful towards the budget. 

[Bainsfordbairn]

19 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

It doesn’t really matter what he’s costing- all of our resources should be focused on bringing in quality to improve the first 11.

We have enough players as it is who should be on the bench at best without adding more youngsters.

To your first point - yes it does. 

Let's assume the poster after you is correct and that he is indeed on an amateur contract. Then he's costing us nothing. No resources are being spent on him and the managers focus is on improving the existing players while he waits for the quality he wants to become available. 

To your second point - I disagree. 

Almost all our offensive players were on the park today, which is why Jaime Wilson was first off the bench. 

Imagine Wilson picking up a knock and being unavailable. Then any one of Nesbitt, Morrison, Oliver, or McGuffie gets clattered during a game and has to be subbed. What would you rather do - play a striker who knows the position, even if he's a young lad - or put Blair Sneddon, Leon McCann or Seb Ross up front? 

I know what I'd prefer. 

 

[GeordieBairn]

14 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

The future will be an indefinite stay in league 1 unless resources are used to bring in better quality for the starting 11. Didn’t you criticise the previous board for spending money on the youth development squads?

You would almost think certain posters are far up the boards arse? Oh wait

Bantabairn 2.0

[Guest Brockvillenomore]

8 minutes ago, Brockvillenomore said:

There are only groups in your mind. It’s this sort of attitude that’s poisoning the club. FFS, Patrons even the major shareholders, all involved are Falkirk supporters. 

This is the legal requirement for Directors. 

[LatapyBairn.]

21 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Personally I have no interest in being a director but to me it’s not good for corporate governance or decision making to have a supposed 3 legged stool model but where all directors are members of one group.

Then join the FSS if you haven’t already and vote for another set of directors when the elections come along if you have an issue with the status quo. The governance of the club is the most democratic and fan inclusive it has ever been, I’ve no issue with a patron putting money into the FSS or vise versa then standing for election, at the end of the day it’s the members/fans who elect these directors and we need the largest possible pool of cash, skill set and talent to draw upon, putting up barriers to that is beyond crazy in my opinion, anybody prepared to join one of these groups and stand for election putting cash into the club, giving up time and energy for no reward deserves a thank you.  You do seem to be creating issues that don’t excist here and I can understand why some posters are suggesting some kind of agenda.

Edited July 9, 2022 by LatapyBairn.

[PedroMoutinho]

7 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

To your second point - I disagree. 

Almost all our offensive players were on the park today, which is why Jaime Wilson was first off the bench. 

Imagine Wilson picking up a knock and being unavailable. Then any one of Nesbitt, Morrison, Oliver, or McGuffie gets clattered during a game and has to be subbed. What would you rather do - play a striker who knows the position, even if he's a young lad - or put Blair Sneddon, Leon McCann or Seb Ross up front? 

I know what I'd prefer. 

 

I said we have enough players who should be on the bench at best. Clearly the current squad numbers dictate that the likes of Nesbitt, Mcguffie and Hetherington have got to start.

But they will need to be replaced by better quality in the starting 11 if we are to make that playoffs.

[Grangemouth Bairn]

It’s not unusual for keyboard warriors to think they can pick a better team, make better transfers and overall generally do a better job than their teams manager - I’ve been there myself but f**k me, in the Falkirk support we’ve got keyboard warriors that think they can sort out sponsorship, increase income and generally do a better job than the current Board of Directors - you honestly could not make it up.

If we are ever fully fan owned we’ll win the Champions League, Eurovision Song Contest, the General Election and World War 3.

[Reggie Perrin]

6 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

I said we have enough players who should be on the bench at best. Clearly the current squad numbers dictate that the likes of Nesbitt, Mcguffie and Hetherington have got to start.

But they will need to be replaced by better quality in the starting 11 if we are to make that playoffs.

That will require serious money not the insignificant sum required to sign a youth player.

[Guest]

I am not certain, but it might well be equally plausible to say that every Director is an FSS member instead of saying “every Director is a Patron”.

As I understand it, every Patron donated their five figure sum, and beyond their shareholding, they received nothing. I don’t think it’s the case that some Patrons are more equal than others (or at least, it shouldn’t be).

Obviously, Directors who are members of the Patron group and/or the FSS will know more than Patrons/FSS members who are not Directors, but that’s just common sense.

Beyond that, I would assume all other Patrons are privy to the same information at the same time from the same source.

[Bairn in Exile]

6 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said:

That will require serious money not the insignificant sum required to sign a youth player.

Yes, but if we keep spending these relatively insignificant sums then we'll never have the serious money to make the necessary changes.

Mony a mickle maks a muckle.