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8 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

I remember that description too and thinking any individual entering into a financial arrangement like that would have to be incredibly stupid.

Not stupid, just venal. Politicians who wanted good publicity for cutting the ribbon on new buildings, while also lining the pockets of influential friends in industry and giving absolutely zero shits about what would happen when they were out of office and unaccountable.

So, the same old story with shiny new Third Way packaging.

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8 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

I remember that description too and thinking any individual entering into a booth to vote for them again financial arrangement like that would have to be incredibly stupid.

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9 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

I remember that description too and thinking any individual entering into a financial arrangement like that would have to be incredibly stupid.

Not if you were the individual or corporation who was sucking on the PFI teat.  The whole cynical point of PFI was to shuffle costs off the public finances, and whilst it did that in the first instance it kicked the problem down the road by which time the architects would have moved on to their international sinecures.

That was bad enough, but the quality of the 'products' that emerged from PFI was invariably shit, the tab for which will be picked up by Joe Public.

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50 minutes ago, BTFD said:

Not stupid, just venal. Politicians who wanted good publicity for cutting the ribbon on new buildings, while also lining the pockets of influential friends in industry and giving absolutely zero shits about what would happen when they were out of office and unaccountable.

So, the same old story with shiny new Third Way packaging.

 

7 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

Not if you were the individual or corporation who was sucking on the PFI teat.  The whole cynical point of PFI was to shuffle costs off the public finances, and whilst it did that in the first instance it kicked the problem down the road by which time the architects would have moved on to their international sinecures.

That was bad enough, but the quality of the 'products' that emerged from PFI was invariably shit, the tab for which will be picked up by Joe Public.

Either you’re not reading my post correctly or I’m not explaining myself.

My point in the analogy to buying a house is no individual would agree to pay a mortgage for 25 years in the knowledge they would not own the house at the end.  Duh.

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8 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

 

Either you’re not reading my post correctly or I’m not explaining myself.

My point in the analogy to buying a house is no individual would agree to pay a mortgage for 25 years in the knowledge they would not own the house at the end.  Duh.

Your explanation was fine Granny but you overlooked an embedded and enduring aspect known simply as political expediency, in which normal rules don't apply. 

I've never known a house-buying individual whose actions were based on how it would play with the electorate.

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Two news items today that seems to fit together

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/06/eu-unveils-package-laws-curb-power-big-tech-giants

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/sep/06/cars-collect-extensive-personal-data-on-drivers-study-warns

Whilst we all know and accept, although probably unwillingly is many instances, the fact that your phone collects a lot of data on you, I doubt very many people though that their car would be doing the same. It really is the time for Govt to stamp out this data mining by all companies, and to finally get on the side of the consumer when it comes to privacy and what data companies collect.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Soapy FFC said:

Two news items today that seems to fit together

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/06/eu-unveils-package-laws-curb-power-big-tech-giants

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/sep/06/cars-collect-extensive-personal-data-on-drivers-study-warns

Whilst we all know and accept, although probably unwillingly is many instances, the fact that your phone collects a lot of data on you, I doubt very many people though that their car would be doing the same. It really is the time for Govt to stamp out this data mining by all companies, and to finally get on the side of the consumer when it comes to privacy and what data companies collect.

 

 

Good luck with that, whatever Party is in power. 

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Christ, the Tories are still copypasting the exact same ONLY WE CAN WIN HERE templates that Ruth Davidson knocked up a decade ago. Literally just the name and figures changed.

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I watched a 9/11 documentary on iplayer earlier - Inside The President's Bunker, or a similar title. Interviews with Bush and all his advisors and the senior people involved in it at the time. There was something quite sobering that, twenty years later, George Bush was more articulate, more intelligent and more compassionate than their recent presidential efforts.

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On 08/09/2023 at 16:09, jakedee said:

I'm really in a quandary here.

Who to choose...🤔20230908_160600.thumb.jpg.22b668b1b0bdd3ae89df125f50f3ab87.jpg

Beginning to see a pattern..

 

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Incidentally in the local elections they're referring to the Lib Dems came 3rd to Independents in 2nd.

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2 hours ago, BTFD said:

Christ, the Tories are still copypasting the exact same ONLY WE CAN WIN HERE templates that Ruth Davidson knocked up a decade ago. Literally just the name and figures changed.

We get “only the Tories can beat the SNP here” sent to us, despite the fact that I live in Edinburgh West, a fairly safe Lib Dem seat.

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"Fears voter ID could disrupt general election": https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66788130

14,000 known to have been prevented from voting, with many more turning away once they realised they didn't have the correct ID, primarily from groups such as the unemployed and ethnic minorities (also known as "people less likely to vote for the government").

The correct headline is "voter suppression measures working as planned", and news organisations are running interference by pretending otherwise.

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The pro-Zionist scumbags will be upset by this.

Antisemitism definition used by UK universities leading to ‘unreasonable’ accusations 

Report says IHRA definition has led to 40 cases against people and groups – of which 38 were cleared – and is stifling academic freedoms
 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/sep/13/antisemitism-definition-used-by-uk-universities-leading-to-unreasonable-accusations
 

It’s about time that the false equivalency between anti-semitism and anti-Zionism was exposed.

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https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/29/surety-mission-50m-airbase-project-could-pave-way-for-uk-to-host-us-nuclear-weapons
 

A story that has largely been ignored (probably because the MSM is very pro-war again). It goes without saying that this is a terrible idea. No yank nukes in are country. 

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