Work colleagues

[Hillonearth]

10 minutes ago, steelmen said:

 

This sums up my wifes work. Upper management have basically said 'continue to work from home if you can unless there is a business reason that you must be in the office' My wife and her colleague's boss has said i want you in at least 4 days a week. they quite rightly said 'what's the business case for that' and the honest reply was.... 'Because I want you in'

there are a lot of people can't get their heads round the world has moved on from 2019. We have proven that we can work from home and be productive, so working 5 days a week in the office should no longer be the norm.

 

My work has been sensible, 2 days a week minimum arranged with your manager on a flexible basis.

I reckon the main issue is that in common with a lot of places there's a cohort of middle managers who are overly-wedded to office culture and politics and thrive on being present and visible because it's really all they've got to offer. They can't understand that the majority of people aren't champing at the bit to return to old ways when over the last two years they've been able to work just as well from home - maybe even marginally better.

In future it'll be what informs people's decisions on where they want to work - I've already seen it happen when we were running some internal recruitments recently - the ones that the line managers were comfortable with primarily WFH going forward got plenty of interest, but the one where the LM's a well known old-schooler with a hardon for presence in the office didn't get a sniff.

[RH33]

24 minutes ago, Hillonearth said:

I reckon the main issue is that in common with a lot of places there's a cohort of middle managers who are overly-wedded to office culture and politics and thrive on being present and visible because it's really all they've got to offer. They can't understand that the majority of people aren't champing at the bit to return to old ways when over the last two years they've been able to work just as well from home - maybe even marginally better.

In future it'll be what informs people's decisions on where they want to work - I've already seen it happen when we were running some internal recruitments recently - the ones that the line managers were comfortable with primarily WFH going forward got plenty of interest, but the one where the LM's a well known old-schooler with a hardon for presence in the office didn't get a sniff.

I've just started a wfh role. It's week one in fairness but I'm looking forward to not dealing with office politics. Head down and do my role. Manage my own time. 

[thistledo]

44 minutes ago, Hillonearth said:

I reckon the main issue is that in common with a lot of places there's a cohort of middle managers who are overly-wedded to office culture and politics and thrive on being present and visible because it's really all they've got to offer. They can't understand that the majority of people aren't champing at the bit to return to old ways when over the last two years they've been able to work just as well from home - maybe even marginally better.

In future it'll be what informs people's decisions on where they want to work - I've already seen it happen when we were running some internal recruitments recently - the ones that the line managers were comfortable with primarily WFH going forward got plenty of interest, but the one where the LM's a well known old-schooler with a hardon for presence in the office didn't get a sniff.

I'd say a lot of it is probably comes down to power with middle management and maybe the type of workplace. I find it weird when people are so against it, office "culture" is awful, I can't stand small talk. I hate office traditions of whip rounds for such n such is pregnant/leaving/married/birthday/dead honestly, couldn't give a f**k. If I never see an office again. Bliss. 

I've not been in the office for years now, I move around jobs a lot as it's always contracts, not even entertaining the idea of going back into the office.

Edited April 28, 2022 by thistledo

[Florentine_Pogen]

2 minutes ago, thistledo said:

I'd say a lot of it is probably comes down to power with middle management and maybe the type of workplace. I find it weird when people are so against it, office "culture" is awful, I can't stand small talk. I hate office traditions of whip rounds for such n such is pregnant/leaving/married/birthday/dead honestly, couldn't give a f**k. If I never see an office again. Bliss. 

I've not been in the office for years now, I move around jobs a lot as it's always contracts, not even entertaining the idea of going back into the office.

Amen, brother.........................

[MEADOWXI]

Moving through the change from 100% WFH to Hybrid.

Most seem to be happy with doing the office 2-3 days a week but couple of managers pushing for 4.

Seeing as since I started they have spent money on new laptops for all, docking stations, desk and chair in house and the work is running fine through Teams etc, and they adding a phone number to Teams to allow full contact with customers seems a lot of expense for a Friday at home working. Mostly seems to a control issue with a couple of managers. 

[scottsdad]

The wife has been put forward for a bonus by her boss. £750 in August. Well deserved.

[Florentine_Pogen]

8 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

The wife has been put forward for a bonus by her boss. £750 in August. Well deserved.

[GordonD]

12 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Of course you just happened to have that gif to hand...

[strichener]

22 minutes ago, GordonD said:

Of course you just happened to have that home made video to hand...

FTFY

[steelmen]

I reckon the main issue is that in common with a lot of places there's a cohort of middle managers who are overly-wedded to office culture and politics and thrive on being present and visible because it's really all they've got to offer. They can't understand that the majority of people aren't champing at the bit to return to old ways when over the last two years they've been able to work just as well from home - maybe even marginally better.
In future it'll be what informs people's decisions on where they want to work - I've already seen it happen when we were running some internal recruitments recently - the ones that the line managers were comfortable with primarily WFH going forward got plenty of interest, but the one where the LM's a well known old-schooler with a hardon for presence in the office didn't get a sniff.

I meant to add, her manager isn’t planning on coming to the office more that a day or two a week as she stays too far away… she doesn’t see that as double standards.

[Boghead ranter]

Having spent a long number of years as a middle manager in previous occupations, they'll be shitting themselves at the prospect of missing out on extra long breaks/lunches which are disguised as 'working' lunches, meetings put in place for the sake of meetings, and as mentioned already, just being 'visible' at the right times to justify their existence.

Like a lot of their employees, some middle managers will thrive on the wfh/hybrid way of working - many will be found out, and ultimately fail.

[FK1Bairn]

My work has taken on a load of new starts in the last few months including a new department manager. I feel really old, they are all early 20's with a couldn't give a f**k attitude. 

Sadly that attitude is extended to the older experienced staff like myself with a combined 100+ years service. They think they know it all and won't listen to experience. 

 

Edited April 28, 2022 by FK1Bairn
Too many mentions of feeling old 😡

[tamthebam]

1 hour ago, FK1Bairn said:

My work has taken on a load of new starts in the last few months including a new department manager. I feel really old, they are all early 20's with a couldn't give a f**k attitude. 

Sadly that attitude is extended to the older experienced staff like myself with a combined 100+ years service. They think they know it all and won't listen to experience. 

 

Maybe this is why you don't see many electricians in their 20s.... 

[BFTD]

1 hour ago, FK1Bairn said:

My work has taken on a load of new starts in the last few months including a new department manager. I feel really old, they are all early 20's with a couldn't give a f**k attitude. 

Sadly that attitude is extended to the older experienced staff like myself with a combined 100+ years service. They think they know it all and won't listen to experience. 

Considering how many times I've heard this complaint over the decades, I get the impression that this is the experience of every 40+ worker who hasn't slithered their way into management.

Top tip: I've managed to avoid my expertise being ignored by never having any.

[MEADOWXI]

And now we're back in the office the lanyard wankers are back.

Started new job May 2021, so WFH Ft till this year and slowly going back in a couple of days a week. Got ID badge that also works the doors, but no requirement to wear it on provided lanyard. Mine is in pocket on way to work, in hand through doors and lies on desk rest of day, the provided lanyard not even attached, in the bottom of laptop bag. But some folk have it round their neck like a badge of pride and and not only wear it all day but on way to work, way home, and worst sin of all in the pub. Sure a couple probably wear it in house when WFH. Weirdos. 

[TheScarf]

7 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said:

And now we're back in the office the lanyard wankers are back.

Started new job May 2021, so WFH Ft till this year and slowly going back in a couple of days a week. Got ID badge that also works the doors, but no requirement to wear it on provided lanyard. Mine is in pocket on way to work, in hand through doors and lies on desk rest of day, the provided lanyard not even attached, in the bottom of laptop bag. But some folk have it round their neck like a badge of pride and and not only wear it all day but on way to work, way home, and worst sin of all in the pub. Sure a couple probably wear it in house when WFH. Weirdos. 

I'm the same, my ID badge in is my pocket and is presented on request.  f**k having a lanyard on all day. 

Pain in the arse it flapping about when you walk.

[Florentine_Pogen]

1 hour ago, MEADOWXI said:

And now we're back in the office the lanyard wankers are back.

Started new job May 2021, so WFH Ft till this year and slowly going back in a couple of days a week. Got ID badge that also works the doors, but no requirement to wear it on provided lanyard. Mine is in pocket on way to work, in hand through doors and lies on desk rest of day, the provided lanyard not even attached, in the bottom of laptop bag. But some folk have it round their neck like a badge of pride and and not only wear it all day but on way to work, way home, and worst sin of all in the pub. Sure a couple probably wear it in house when WFH. Weirdos. 

Have never understood why folk would want to inform the world of their workplace and jobtitle. Strange.

[Hillonearth]

55 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Have never understood why folk would want to inform the world of their workplace and jobtitle. Strange.

[Jacksgranda]

15 hours ago, Hillonearth said:

A step up from being Deputy Assistant Regional Manager, although probably not as impressive as being Vice President Assistant Regional Manager

[Fullerene]

1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said:

A step up from being Deputy Assistant Regional Manager, although probably not as impressive as being Vice President Assistant Regional Manager

What about someone who is Regional Assistant Manager?