Soapy FFC Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zern said: UK legislation. Public Order Act. Govt uses a statutory amendment to change the definition of the main legislation by the back door. Green/LibDem/ind table a Fatal Motion to prevent this. Labour abstain. Tories win. I quickly read this. There are several bits where it says not in Scotland, so I was just trying to figure out the impact on us. https://twitter.com/CPhilpOfficial/status/1668898789275455489 Edited June 14, 2023 by Soapy FFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said: I quickly read this. There are several bits where it says not in Scotland, so I was just trying to figure out the impact on us. https://twitter.com/CPhilpOfficial/status/1668898789275455489 Not certain with how that might affect Scotland specifically. Will complicate things. From what i understand the Public Order Act passed prior to the Coronation. In order for it to pass the House of Lards, amendments were made, certain things were taken out or clarified. What happened here was the Home Secretary, Suella Braverman used a statutory instrument to put back parts that were removed by the upper house without debate in either. The Fatal motion was intended to prevent her amendments from happening. This is same bill that Starmer said he 'wants to bed in" by the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, Zern said: House of Lards Nice! That Thornberry quote sounds perilously close to the naivety displayed by the Democrats in America, obsessed by playing by the rules only for the opposition to screw them over at every turn. Although, much like America, the issue is likely more that Labour isn't really terribly fussed about right-wing policies being enacted now, and they're hoping to be able to use the Lords as an excuse for doing nothing in a few years' time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Thornberry is turning into their very own version of Coffey. Saw her on a podcast with Nish Kumar and she was utterly tone deaf to some of the issues around race. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Soapy FFC said: I'm unclear, do these new powers apply to Scotland, or just England Wales. I've glanced through the text of the SI used but can't really get my headt round it. England and Wales only on the face of it. Scots Criminal law is a devolved matter (and we've had a separate legal system even after 1707) and looking at the Act it mentions a lot of English laws and acts. When there is a cross UK Act e.g. Proceeds of Crime Act 2003 it usually has separate Scottish sections within the Act 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 8 hours ago, BTFD said: Nice! That Thornberry quote sounds perilously close to the naivety displayed by the Democrats in America, obsessed by playing by the rules only for the opposition to screw them over at every turn. Although, much like America, the issue is likely more that Labour isn't really terribly fussed about right-wing policies being enacted now, and they're hoping to be able to use the Lords as an excuse for doing nothing in a few years' time. But how can they do that when they're scrapping the House of Lords.......oh, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Labour rules out universal childcare for young children in fiscal credibility drive | Labour | The Guardian Calling abandoning a series of pledges and promises a 'fiscal credibility drive' is a good attempt at turd-polishing though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 15/06/2023 at 07:27, Suspect Device said: But how can they do that when they're scrapping the House of Lords.......oh, This very day, it's announced that Smuggy Smugface Jackie Baillie is to become Dame Smuggy Smugface. No, I know dames don't qualify for the HoL, but it's the same corrupt honours system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, KirkieRR said: This very day, it's announced that Smuggy Smugface Jackie Baillie is to become Dame Smuggy Smugface. No, I know dames don't qualify for the HoL, but it's the same corrupt honours system. A gong for services to Unionism ... And Gregg's Personally I consider it an honour that I've never been nominated for an honour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Decline in working class politicians, shifted Labour towards right wing policy | UCL News - UCL – University College London Tell us something we don't know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 It’s hard to believe this dug shite party is going to overtake the SNP in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: It’s hard to believe this dug shite party is going to overtake the SNP in Scotland. If they do, then Scotland deserves all the unionism it gets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Kuenssberg (I know, I know) said it already had. Sarwar was one of her interviewees. All self-inflicted by the SNP. There are no posiive reasons to vote Labour in Scotland (in England I'd vote for them to get the Tories out - no other reason). Interesting that while the SNP has shot itself repeatedly in the foot, leg, arm, head etc, Wee Wings Stu has been kicking away at the twitching corpse. His fantroop bay and cheer and await the rise of ALBA and the scond coming of Eck. But the lost votes are not going to the electorally comical ALBA, they're going to Labour. I wonder if that was Mad Stu's aim all along. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 My MP. A w**k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Just now, Leith Green said: My MP. A w**k Not sure what you mean... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Interesting that Sky News frame it as "half of Scotland having their say". Do they plan on limiting the next referendum to NO voters only? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Leith Green said: My MP. A w**k And a Jambo w@nk at that............................. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 On 18/06/2023 at 11:06, KirkieRR said: Kuenssberg (I know, I know) said it already had. Sarwar was one of her interviewees. All self-inflicted by the SNP. There are no posiive reasons to vote Labour in Scotland (in England I'd vote for them to get the Tories out - no other reason). Interesting that while the SNP has shot itself repeatedly in the foot, leg, arm, head etc, Wee Wings Stu has been kicking away at the twitching corpse. His fantroop bay and cheer and await the rise of ALBA and the scond coming of Eck. But the lost votes are not going to the electorally comical ALBA, they're going to Labour. I wonder if that was Mad Stu's aim all along. He said he was going to vote Tory in Bath after they banned the GRR act. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Labour. What a joke party they are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Eh, sorry, what's that you say, Tory-Lite chaps? Labour is reportedly devising plans to appoint dozens of peers to the House of Lords to prevent a Keir Starmer government being stymied by the upper chamber. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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