lichtgilphead Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Gringo said: It certainly was compared to what went before. Do you recall the disastrous Prices and Incomes policy under George Brown? Socialism in action- total fail. Do you remember all the strikes - miners, steelworkers, car workers, you name it. How about all the power cuts, candles to light the house. That was certainly no utopia. Thatcher came just at the right time, in fact the nick of time. For me the 80’s and 90’s were a period of great prosperity. Markets were free, incentives were huge and Britain was a great place to live in. Can only speak for myself. Maybe your experiences were different. Who knows? Please read my posts properly before responding in future. I told you that I left school during the Thatcher years, so why are you asking about my recollection of early 1960's Labour's economic policies? I would have been about 4. I do remember the Steelworkers & Miners strikes of 1980 & 1985 respectively. These were during Thatcher's period in power, so I'm unclear what your point is. Using candles during power cuts was a result of the 3 day week, again caused by strikes under a Tory government. We used to go round to my Grans, as her power was on when ours was off. Edward Heath was pm at the time. All you are doing is demonstrating how shite the UK was (and is) under Tory control. Edited June 10, 2023 by lichtgilphead to add "and is" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, scottsdad said: What's the rules on banned posters coming back? Just allowed to carry on as before? Seems to be the case here anyway. Not even the slightest difference in posting from his DPB account and his Gringo one. Div gets kept in hot tub money by his friends and neighbors who’d much rather he was logged in here than annoying them, most likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Gringo said: It certainly was compared to what went before. Do you recall the disastrous Prices and Incomes policy under George Brown? Socialism in action- total fail. Do you remember all the strikes - miners, steelworkers, car workers, you name it. How about all the power cuts, candles to light the house. That was certainly no utopia. Thatcher came just at the right time, in fact the nick of time. For me the 80’s and 90’s were a period of great prosperity. Markets were free, incentives were huge and Britain was a great place to live in. Can only speak for myself. Maybe your experiences were different. Who knows? That's obvious. And the strikes wouldn't have been needed if selfish c***s like you had treated the workers fairly in the first place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 3 hours ago, scottsdad said: What's the rules on banned posters coming back? Just allowed to carry on as before? Seems to be the case here anyway. Not even the slightest difference in posting from his DPB account and his Gringo one. Give the mods a break. They'll swing by again in a few months. Imagine being a normal person, or a St Mirren fan, and having to scour the Politics board daily 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 15 hours ago, GordonD said: Are there any? Getting rid of all the foreigners stealing our jobs and now we have a shortage of people in lower paying jobs because funnily enough the lazy racists never intended on doing these jobs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 18 hours ago, orfc said: Raise them? The SNP have arranged it so that between 43 and 50K someone pays their 42% higher tax and the 12% NI rate so they lose more than half their money in direct deductions, that's showing those rich millionaire b*****ds who's boss . I already trade in some of my salary for extra holidays because they can't nick half my time off (though I bet they're working on it). If you raise taxes too much people just absolutely topload their pensions (a la Nicola) or go part-time, you don't raise that much more. Meanwhile lower down the scale their 19% rate on a whole £2200 of income means most people get a whole 20 pound note and change in their back pocket over a year, huzzah poverty has been defeated! Though it does mean they can trot out their "most people pay less taxes under our progressive blah blah", aye about a takeaway's worth. Have you any idea how income tax is calculated? Tax of £13,525.70 (incl NI) is hardly "more than half" of £50,000 https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/estimate-paye-take-home-pay/your-results?csrfToken=36fee55d32991ce9230dd29021da009982be2978-1686464551486-64e68af8007207809bd65bbf and I have no idea how you calculate that some one on a "whole £2200 of income" gets "a whole 20 pound note" over a year in their back pocket. Someone on the 19% tax rate will be paying very little income tax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Caledonian1 said: Have you any idea how income tax is calculated? Tax of £13,525.70 (incl NI) is hardly "more than half" of £50,000 https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/estimate-paye-take-home-pay/your-results?csrfToken=36fee55d32991ce9230dd29021da009982be2978-1686464551486-64e68af8007207809bd65bbf and I have no idea how you calculate that some one on a "whole £2200 of income" gets "a whole 20 pound note" over a year in their back pocket. Someone on the 19% tax rate will be paying very little income tax. I think he may be confusing it with the marginal tax rate - the tax rate you pay on any additional income. From my own experience this works out as around 52%. Edited June 11, 2023 by DeeTillEhDeh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Yeah it’s pretty indisputable that if you earn £43,662 and get a payrise to £50,000, about 52% of your nice payrise goes straight back to the taxman. Not sure anybody claimed that means you pay 52% tax overall. The Scottish system is too complex and probably also too high at this stage. Farting about for the sake of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 17 hours ago, scottsdad said: What's the rules on banned posters coming back? Just allowed to carry on as before? Seems to be the case here anyway. Not even the slightest difference in posting from his DPB account and his Gringo one. I don't think he's mentioned his wife yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, Lurkst said: I don't think he's mentioned his awful wife yet. FTFY -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Seems like there's been a remarkable number of new accounts interested exclusively in the Politics board since the last round of bannings. Godspeed, admins. It's going to be a long summer 'til the schools start back. Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 6 hours ago, orfc said: I wasn't confusing it, I knew what I was talking about, it's stated quite clearly. The respondents on the other hand You don't lose half your pay in deductions - only half of any pay increase. On a salary of £50k your deductions will be 27%. In comparison in England the deductions work out as 24%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 minute ago, orfc said: I know, because that's what I said in my very first post on the matter Of course (as you also said) you can put AVC's into your pension pot by means of a salary sacrifice. In this situation, you legally avoid a greater sum in taxation than an English or Welsh taxpayer on an equivalent salary. Save more under the Scottish system! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Of course (as you also said) you can put AVC's into your pension pot by means of a salary sacrifice. In this situation, you legally avoid a greater sum in taxation than an English or Welsh taxpayer on an equivalent salary. Save more under the Scottish system! That's fine if you want to lock your money away into your pension until you are 55 or 57 (as of 2028). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Just now, Trogdor said: That's fine if you want to lock your money away into your pension until you are 55 or 57 (as of 2028). I've already given my age away on this thread, so 55 was a good few years ago 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, lichtgilphead said: I've already given my age away on this thread, so 55 was a good few years ago 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 5 hours ago, lichtgilphead said: I've already given my age away on this thread, so 55 was a good few years ago lol..... never give your age away .... pension firms follow this forum you know! p.s. I used to 'go out' with a lassie fae Lochgilphead many moons ago. No.....I'm not sayin.' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) I see the Tories are starting to take a we're a whole new party line, it'll be "Boris Who" by the next GE! Edited June 12, 2023 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 https://twitter.com/Ian_Fraser/status/1668024002328117248?t=TYD8-hmmzayijn46maguqA&s=19 Nice gig if you can get it. A life peerage before 30 with no work experience at all other than 'parliamentary assistant' She is clearly his daughter. The absolute spitting image. These fuckers just coast through life with no real accountability or actual repercussions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 If she isn't his daughter, then I'm at a loss as to how an attractive blonde woman in her twenties managed to become so popular with Johnson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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