LongTimeLurker Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 7 hours ago, HTG said: ...Still leaves approximately another 20m people not vaccinated. There's no huge rush on the healthy under 50s, because COVID is nothing like as deadly as the media hype builds it up to be and many of them have already had it. Even going as far as all over-50s by spring is about creating an exit route from all the hysteria as much as anything else. It will probably reach the under-50s more quickly than back of an envelope calculations suggest right now though, because other vaccines that are on order like J&J should be available well before July and a significant portion of over-50s will refuse to participate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, Steven W said: Batches of Oxford vaccine have begun to arrive at hospitals according to Sky News. Begs the question why they're not starting the process tomorrow (or tonight even)? Because it's timed to coincide with any disruption on the first normal workday after Brexit kicked in. OxfordAZ was probably held back for three weeks to divert attention from that in news cycle terms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Police Scotland embarassing themselves. Don’t be a Lee Wallace. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 hours ago, strichener said: I'm not so sure, we are cracking through more than 400k COVID tests every day. Does a vaccination take longer than a COVID test to administer? What qualifications do you need in the UK to administer a jab? Vaccinations will take longer because you're monitored for 15mins after the jag in case of any adverse effects. Not sure if this is UK wide or just England, but there's a report on the BBC today about a dentist & retired GP both obviously having the required "healthcare experience" to administer vaccines, but have been put off of by the training they need: Recognising and managing anaphylaxis, Resuscitation, Safeguarding adults, Safeguarding children, Vaccine administration, Vaccine storage, Health Safety and Welfare, Infection Prevention and control, Introduction to Anaphylaxis, Legal aspects of vaccination, Moving and Handling, Preventing radicalisation, Conflict resolution, Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators, Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine), Data security awareness, Equality Diversity and Human rights, Fire safety. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 “Preventing radicalisation”. Tommy Robinson leads that course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 To be honest when it comes to healthcare I do want someone qualified and not some random dentist who says he can do it “nae bother”. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, s_dog said: Recognising and managing anaphylaxis, Resuscitation, Safeguarding adults, Safeguarding children, Vaccine administration, Vaccine storage, Health Safety and Welfare, Infection Prevention and control, Introduction to Anaphylaxis, Legal aspects of vaccination, Moving and Handling, Preventing radicalisation, Conflict resolution, Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators, Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine), Data security awareness, Equality Diversity and Human rights, Fire safety. We didnt start the fire 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Steven W said: Batches of Oxford vaccine have begun to arrive at hospitals according to Sky News. Begs the question why they're not starting the process tomorrow (or tonight even)? It's the weekend. If there's anything that should have become apparent over the past year, it's that Britain is stuck in a "get everyone in the office from Monday to Friday 9-5" mentality. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Vaccinations will take longer because you're monitored for 15mins after the jag in case of any adverse effects.Surely a nurse could watch over a dozen people for a miniscule chance of side effects whilst the doctor churns through the at risk like Uncle Roy in a January window clearout? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, s_dog said: Vaccinations will take longer because you're monitored for 15mins after the jag in case of any adverse effects. Not sure if this is UK wide or just England, but there's a report on the BBC today about a dentist & retired GP both obviously having the required "healthcare experience" to administer vaccines, but have been put off of by the training they need: Recognising and managing anaphylaxis, Resuscitation, Safeguarding adults, Safeguarding children, Vaccine administration, Vaccine storage, Health Safety and Welfare, Infection Prevention and control, Introduction to Anaphylaxis, Legal aspects of vaccination, Moving and Handling, Preventing radicalisation, Conflict resolution, Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators, Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine), Data security awareness, Equality Diversity and Human rights, Fire safety. Yes but that doesn't mean that it takes 15mins per vaccination. One person could probably vaccinate 120 people per hour with a staging area for the people to spend 15mins under observation. Similar to what happens at blood donor sessions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 From what browsing of the internet I was able to do today as I stole a living from my employer, it seems like the media and public opinion are starting to build up a wave of pressure regarding getting the vaccine out rapid. Hopefully this continues and translates into demands to remove restrictions based on hospital numbers, given that current transmissibility is borderline impossible to stop. Even more hopefully, I hope Scotlands media pick up on this mood since it was notably English media that I felt are shifting the narrative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Don’t be a philipy FTFY Spoiler I don't think that's his user name Spoiler But you get it anyway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I’m behind in the thread so apologies of already answered, is there a chance the May elections are postponed, is there legislation to cover such an event? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 There's always one idiot on Facebook... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Post has been since removed. I think a few people pulled her up.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, s_dog said: Vaccinations will take longer because you're monitored for 15mins after the jag in case of any adverse effects. Not sure if this is UK wide or just England, but there's a report on the BBC today about a dentist & retired GP both obviously having the required "healthcare experience" to administer vaccines, but have been put off of by the training they need: Recognising and managing anaphylaxis, Resuscitation, Safeguarding adults, Safeguarding children, Vaccine administration, Vaccine storage, Health Safety and Welfare, Infection Prevention and control, Introduction to Anaphylaxis, Legal aspects of vaccination, Moving and Handling, Preventing radicalisation, Conflict resolution, Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators, Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine), Data security awareness, Equality Diversity and Human rights, Fire safety. Park life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, philpy said: There's always one idiot on Facebook... “Just because I grassed that one time”... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, s_dog said: Vaccinations will take longer because you're monitored for 15mins after the jag in case of any adverse effects. Not sure if this is UK wide or just England, but there's a report on the BBC today about a dentist & retired GP both obviously having the required "healthcare experience" to administer vaccines, but have been put off of by the training they need: Recognising and managing anaphylaxis, Resuscitation, Safeguarding adults, Safeguarding children, Vaccine administration, Vaccine storage, Health Safety and Welfare, Infection Prevention and control, Introduction to Anaphylaxis, Legal aspects of vaccination, Moving and Handling, Preventing radicalisation, Conflict resolution, Core knowledge for Covid-19 vaccinators, Covid mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 (Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine), Data security awareness, Equality Diversity and Human rights, Fire safety. Pretty sure that's for someone supervising rather than everyone giving a jag, however daft some of the categories sound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, philpy said: Post has been since removed. I think a few people pulled her up.. "a few people" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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