Mark Connolly Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Cats are pets as much as dogs are, we domesticated them so if you're arguing cats shouldn't be kept then neither should dogs. I'm quite happy for people not to post pictures of their cats wild kills online, but at the same time I'd question why a guy who clearly doesn't like cats would go onto a thread specifically dedicated to cats. You've been on here for 16 years FFS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, die hard doonhamer said: Is this really the case, given that the prosecution would be under the dangerous dogs act? Is there an equivalent for other animals? Yes, it's a bit different for cats as they have a right to roam under the Animal Act 1971 but if they cause damage/noise nuisance or continually foul in someone else's property you need to take steps to stop that or you'll face an ASBO. I can't see any examples of a cat owner being prosecuted due to their cat murdering a pet/person. 2 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: You've been on here for 16 years FFS. True, naïve of me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 hours ago, The Moonster said: There's no difference in law. You're responsible for your pet whether it's a cat, dog, snake or bearded dragon. well... Animals (Scotland) Act 1987 New provisions as to strict liability for injury or damage caused by animals. (1)Subject to subsection (4) and (5) below and section 2 of this Act, a person shall be liable for any injury or damage caused by an animal if— (a)at the time of the injury or damage complained of, he was a keeper of the animal; (b)the animal belongs to a species whose members generally are by virtue of their physical attributes or habits likely (unless controlled or restrained) to injure severely or kill persons or animals, or damage property to a material extent; and (c)the injury or damage complained of is directly referable to such physical attributes or habits. (2)In this section “species” includes— (a)a form or variety of the species or a sub-division of the species, or the form or variety, identifiable by age, sex or such other criteria as are relevant to the behaviour of animals; and (b)a kind which is the product of hybridisation. (3)For the purposes of subsection (1)(b) above— (a)dogs, and dangerous wild animals within the meaning of section 7(4) of the M1Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976, shall be deemed to be likely (unless controlled or restrained) to injure severely or kill persons or animals by biting or otherwise savaging, attacking or harrying; and This is Scots Civil Law legislation. From background reading (i.e. google) the English Civil Law of tort actually says it would have to prove the aforesaid dug would be capable of causing severe injury. This actually makes a bit more sense as there's a difference between being savaged by a chihuahua and being savaged by a Japanese Toza. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, tamthebam said: well... Animals (Scotland) Act 1987 New provisions as to strict liability for injury or damage caused by animals. (1)Subject to subsection (4) and (5) below and section 2 of this Act, a person shall be liable for any injury or damage caused by an animal if— (a)at the time of the injury or damage complained of, he was a keeper of the animal; (b)the animal belongs to a species whose members generally are by virtue of their physical attributes or habits likely (unless controlled or restrained) to injure severely or kill persons or animals, or damage property to a material extent; and (c)the injury or damage complained of is directly referable to such physical attributes or habits. (2)In this section “species” includes— (a)a form or variety of the species or a sub-division of the species, or the form or variety, identifiable by age, sex or such other criteria as are relevant to the behaviour of animals; and (b)a kind which is the product of hybridisation. (3)For the purposes of subsection (1)(b) above— (a)dogs, and dangerous wild animals within the meaning of section 7(4) of the M1Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976, shall be deemed to be likely (unless controlled or restrained) to injure severely or kill persons or animals by biting or otherwise savaging, attacking or harrying; and This is Scots Civil Law legislation. From background reading (i.e. google) the English Civil Law of tort actually says it would have to prove the aforesaid dug would be capable of causing severe injury. This actually makes a bit more sense as there's a difference between being savaged by a chihuahua and being savaged by a Japanese Toza. "A person shall be liable for injury or damage cause by an animal...if they were the keeper of the animal" I think that's what I've said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Moonster said: Cats are pets as much as dogs are, we domesticated them so if you're arguing cats shouldn't be kept then neither should dogs. I'm quite happy for people not to post pictures of their cats wild kills online, but at the same time I'd question why a guy who clearly doesn't like cats would go onto a thread specifically dedicated to cats. 1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said: You've been on here for 16 years FFS. So you should know how forum browsing goes. ETA- if they’re domesticated they should be kept in the hoose or at least supervised at all times Edited February 23, 2021 by jimbaxters -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, DiegoDiego said: So the update is that the dogs' owner often takes them to the park and encourages them to kill the rabbits there. I'm guessing that somebody who takes their dug out to do that for kicks isn't going to take responsibility for anything else it does. And is also a ghoul. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, BFTD said: I'm guessing that somebody who takes their dug out to do that for kicks isn't going to take responsibility for anything else it does. And is also a ghoul. I'd smear the chunt with bacon, and then put him in a room with half a dozen starving attack dogs, see how he liked it. Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 How many devil dugs have you got @Mr. Alli? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: How many devil dugs have you got @Mr. Alli? Brotherhood of SatanSatians club leader 001. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I knew the answer to that question why did I ask it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Is there a way to check the historical football odds for a given competition? Some walloper on a Facebook group I'm a member of is trying to claim Brendan Rodgers defied all the odds in winning the title for Celtic in 16/17 as Rangers were the clear favourites for the league that year. While that's obviously bullshit, the only odds I can find are from ladbrokes (Celtic 3/10, Rangers 11/4). Would be interested to see what other bookies had as the odds for that time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 18 hours ago, Gaz said: Is there a way to check the historical football odds for a given competition? Some walloper on a Facebook group I'm a member of is trying to claim Brendan Rodgers defied all the odds in winning the title for Celtic in 16/17 as Rangers were the clear favourites for the league that year. While that's obviously bullshit, the only odds I can find are from ladbrokes (Celtic 3/10, Rangers 11/4). Would be interested to see what other bookies had as the odds for that time. Whit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, KnightswoodBear said: Whit? His logic seems to be that because Rangers beat Celtic narrowly on penalties the previous season, and because they bought loads of players when coming up from the Championship, that the 'vast majority' of pundits and bookies had Rangers as overwhelming favourites as they were expected to sweep Celtic away, therefore Rodgers deserves huge praise for winning the league that season. This is all in response to me saying that Celtic have shat it the first time they've went up against a team actually capable of giving them decent competition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 20 hours ago, jimbaxters said: So you should know how forum browsing goes. ETA- if they’re domesticated they should be kept in the hoose or at least supervised at all times Cats have a right to roam under law because they are extremely unlikely to cause damage to property or murder livestock. Dugs don't have that right and thus must be supervised at all times. 19 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Brotherhood of SatanSatians club leader 001. Genuinely thought you'd stolen my brothers dug there, absolutely identical. A beautiful animal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gaz said: His logic seems to be that because Rangers beat Celtic narrowly on penalties the previous season, and because they bought loads of players when coming up from the Championship, that the 'vast majority' of pundits and bookies had Rangers as overwhelming favourites as they were expected to sweep Celtic away, therefore Rodgers deserves huge praise for winning the league that season. This is all in response to me saying that Celtic have shat it the first time they've went up against a team actually capable of giving them decent competition. This is an astonishing rewriting of the facts. At no point since we've come back to the top league have we been favourites at the start of the season. edit: It was closer this season, but Celtic were still huge favourites with the bookies. Edited February 24, 2021 by KnightswoodBear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just now, KnightswoodBear said: we've come back 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Can someone explain how this can be available : Yet this isn't : When all they do is add raspberry sauce to the unavailable one to make the available one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr. Alli said: Can someone explain how this can be available : Yet this isn't : When all they do is add raspberry sauce to the unavailable one to make the available one? Ran out of cups that say Chocolate McFlurry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Ran out of cups that say Chocolate McFlurry. I refuse to believe this theory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 swirls 1 cup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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