Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons

[capt_oats]

49 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:

I don't really think Campbell is good enough for a Championship team to give us £500k+ this summer tbh. As much as he's dropped off this year it's not an entirely new thing, he's gone missing for weeks at a time in the last few seasons as well.

I do like him a lot but I think he's actually at about the same level as Donnelly, Polworth and O'Hara- decent midtable midfielders that will maybe be able to do it at a slightly higher level than us but are too limited to really go any higher than that.

I think that's a bit harsh on Campbell in the sense that for all I agree there are games he's gone missing in the last few seasons there's generally been some context eg: the season he played straight through the summer with Scotland u21s at the Toulon tournament he hit a point with us where he just looked knackered. This season he's been asked to carry the midfield. Given his style of play it's not a huge surprise if we end up seeing signs of burnout.

Also, I wonder how much Donnelly missing has had an impact on Campbell's form. Looking at last season for example he had 6 goals by the time the season was called and he looked like he was developing that knack of breaking into the box and getting beyond the forwards - take the security of Donnelly away and (with respect to both) replace with either Mark O'Hara or Robbie Crawford and I'm not really sure he can play the same game.

Really the only goal he's scored this season like that was the 2nd against Livi - his only other goal this season was the one against St Johnstone where he picked the ball up far deeper.

Edited January 31, 2021 by capt_oats

[rowsdower]

I'd love for us to get another year out of Campbell. He's going through a slump in form right now, but with the amount of games he's had that's inevitable. Teams are learning how to deal with him too. However, I imagine there is no shortage of clubs looking at him that can multiply what he's getting paid at us, and the change of scenery may be just what he needs for his development. As such, I'm looking forward to us getting screwed out of our development fee again. 

[welldaft]

3 hours ago, capt_oats said:

It was different, less "unprecedented times" but the club have already been in that position when Celtic chapped us up for Carson after Gordon picked up his injury.

Whether you believe we'd accepted the offer but couldn't get someone in (Woodman?) or whether we kb'd it because it was too late in the day, either way I'd like to think we'd be holding the same approach.

By my count, all in from the first team squad (as it stands at the moment, minus the injured goalkeepers as they won't fit on the line up) this is how it balances out:

Fwiw: assuming there are no key outgoings then we're still short a creative player and I'm not entirely convinced we don't need another centre back.

A post on Steelmen quoting Flow as saying we are trying to do some business before the window closes.

Another saying signings are imminent but reckons the calibre May be called into Q.  Never ever.

Even if it was Messi someone on SO would call him over the hill and past his best

[capt_oats]

8 minutes ago, welldaft said:

A post on Steelmen quoting Flow as saying we are trying to do some business before the window closes.

Another saying signings are imminent but reckons the calibre May be called into Q.  Never ever.

Even if it was Messi someone on SO would call him over the hill and past his best

I had a dip into Steelmen earlier for the first time in a while and in a way it's comforting to see it hasn't changed. It still melts my brain though.

I'd imagine this would be the quote from the bold Flow:

As I said the other day, I'd imagine we're in a place where we're not going to be making the sort of 'marquee' signings that some folk over there seem to expect (though I've genuinely no idea what they do expect).

Edited January 31, 2021 by capt_oats

[YassinMoutaouakil]

8 minutes ago, capt_oats said:

I had a dip into Steelmen earlier for the first time in a while and in a way it's comforting to see it hasn't changed. It still melts my brain though.

I'd imagine this would be the quote from the bold Flow:

As I said the other day, I'd imagine we're in a place where we're not going to be making the sort of 'marquee' signings that some folk over there seem to expect (though I've genuinely no idea what they do expect).

Stephen O'Donnell to be hung, drawn and quartered for going on Sportscene seems to be a big one

[Busta Nut]

I laughed at how gutted he was when talking about the fact Celtic have all but conceded the league.

[Gianfranco]

James Scott hasn’t been a regular for Hull. I wonder if he’d fancy a loan spell back home for a few months? This isn’t even a rumour btw I just wanted an excuse to post the picture of him on the horse again, a year to the day after he left.

[capt_oats]

1 minute ago, Gianfranco said:

James Scott hasn’t been a regular for Hull. I wonder if he’d fancy a loan spell back home for a few months? This isn’t even a rumour btw I just wanted an excuse to post the picture of him on the horse again, a year to the day after he left.

That photo man...Robinson in the background.

[ATLIS]

1 hour ago, capt_oats said:

I think that's a bit harsh on Campbell in the sense that for all I agree there are games he's gone missing in the last few seasons there's generally been some context eg: the season he played straight through the summer with Scotland u21s at the Toulon tournament he hit a point with us where he just looked knackered. This season he's been asked to carry the midfield. Given his style of play it's not a huge surprise if we end up seeing signs of burnout.

Also, I wonder how much Donnelly missing has had an impact on Campbell's form. Looking at last season for example he had 6 goals by the time the season was called and he looked like he was developing that knack of breaking into the box and getting beyond the forwards - take the security of Donnelly away and (with respect to both) replace with either Mark O'Hara or Robbie Crawford and I'm not really sure he can play the same game.

Really the only goal he's scored this season like that was the 2nd against Livi - his only other goal this season was the one against St Johnstone where he picked the ball up far deeper.

 

I think there's a Ricki Lamie special in there  Misses the ball completely 

[0Neils40yarder]

29 minutes ago, welldaft said:

A post on Steelmen quoting Flow as saying we are trying to do some business before the window closes.

Another saying signings are imminent but reckons the calibre May be called into Q.  Never ever.

Even if it was Messi someone on SO would call him over the hill and past his best

The place is full of rockets...I've heard that we will be bringing a player in but I have no clue who it is, what position it's for, or what level of ability the player has...I just know that someone on SO will be raging for no apparent reason

[0Neils40yarder]

7 minutes ago, capt_oats said:

That photo man...Robinson in the background.

I've looked at that photo hunners of times...and that's the 1st time I've seen Robinson in it

[capt_oats]

9 minutes ago, ATLIS said:

I think there's a Ricki Lamie special in there  Misses the ball completely 

Definitely not for you guys as he'd just literally handed you an equaliser.

Edited January 31, 2021 by capt_oats

[ATLIS]

1 minute ago, capt_oats said:

Definitely not for you guys as he's just literally handed you an equaliser.

Possibly the best thing he's ever done for Livi.

[mwellhighland]

1 hour ago, capt_oats said:

I had a dip into Steelmen earlier for the first time in a while and in a way it's comforting to see it hasn't changed. It still melts my brain though.

 

It really is awful, just puts me in a bad mood reading the same shite from the usual suspects. It used to be my main forum for news but this thread has taken first place now. Hope you'll have me. 

[ropy]

5 minutes ago, mwellhighland said:

It really is awful, just puts me in a bad mood reading the same shite from the usual suspects. It used to be my main forum for news but this thread has taken first place now. Hope you'll have me. 

Any food tips?

[santheman]

8 minutes ago, mwellhighland said:

It really is awful, just puts me in a bad mood reading the same shite from the usual suspects. It used to be my main forum for news but this thread has taken first place now. Hope you'll have me. 

tbf there's  a dozen or so really good  posters on SO  who have well balanced views  I regularly converse with. The others I tend to ignore but respect their right to post what they think even if I think they're talking pish. That's what forums are all about. 

[mwellhighland]

9 minutes ago, ropy said:

Any food tips?

king prawn makhani is decent

2 minutes ago, santheman said:

tbf there's  a dozen or so really good  posters on SO  who have well balanced views  I regularly converse with. The others I tend to ignore but respect their right to post what they think even if I think they're talking pish. That's what forums are all about. 

Absolutely, but calling players c***s and the general foaming at the mouth is something I won't miss. 

P&B seem a great bunch of lads

 

[santheman]

2 minutes ago, mwellhighland said:

king prawn makhani is decent

Absolutely, but calling players c***s and the general foaming at the mouth is something I won't miss. 

P&B seem a great bunch of lads

 

You should take a look at Wellboys111 on FB. They make SO look like a Sunday school choir.  I can actually feel myself cringe just mentioning it.

[capt_oats]

14 minutes ago, santheman said:

tbf there's  a dozen or so really good  posters on SO  who have well balanced views  I regularly converse with. The others I tend to ignore but respect their right to post what they think even if I think they're talking pish. That's what forums are all about. 

Aye, I should probably say, I used to post on SO regularly and there are a handful of genuinely really good posters there who offer some great insight and balance. IMO it just suffers from the same one eyedness that most single club forums do and it can really be a drain to read as a result.

As @mwellhighland says the general foaming at the mouth is something that I really don't miss at all from my Motherwell forum experience.

[rowsdower]

I've been on SO since day1. It's funny that it was created to counteract the negativity of firparkcorner, but I don't think it's as bad as it's made out to be, particularly compared to the well fans facebook sequels. Some folk are going to be negative no matter what, but it's a nice replacement for the cooper stand during exile. 

Half the folk on here are on SO too, watching the OTF and supermarv running battle across both is fun  I think they're the same person.

 

Edited January 31, 2021 by rowsdower