welshbairn Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Yousef staying on while a new leader is selected would suggest Swinney is going to make a leadership bid instead of bailing out Yousef as temporary FM to save him from a humiliating and torrid time. Might be better just to call an early election instead of another lengthy and divisive contest to elect another leader without a proper democratic mandate. Hopefully they'd avoid holding it during the Euros though, and it would be great if the Murrell mess is finally settled by then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Kate Forbes case an interesting one. Clearly her religion means that she holds personal socially conservative views on issues like abortion, gay marriage and the trans debate. There are some people within the SNP and outside of it who consider that should prevent her from ever leading the country, even though she hasn’t actually proposed to implement any socially conservative policies (to my knowledge). I think they’ll end up convincing Swinney to do it until the general election and then hold a proper contest after that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Swinney considering standing! Oh god! As if the SNP hasn't enough troubles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 4 minutes ago, Lex said: This is spot on. The SNP came to power in 2007 for goodness sake, to still be in power 17 years later is not normal. The reality is they will probably still be in power in 17 years time. With the electoral set up there the only thing that could stop them forming a government is if there ever was a LAB/CON coalition, and although that does happen at council level, it ain't happening in Holyrood. This latest SNP administration was elected in 2021. Since then we've had the end of COVID and all the fall out and enquiries regarding that, the resignation and subsequent arrest of the lady who led the party into that election, the arrest and charging of the chief executive of the party, the long drawn out and at times bizarre leadership contest that led to Humza's coronation, the extremely divisive recognition bill and hate crime bills, the scrapping of their own green targets, the resultant ending of the coalition with the Greens and the subsequent resignation of the second SNP leader of this parliament. It's not even been three years. Not many parties in world politics would stay in power after all of that in such a short time, the SNP will. They'll get a third FM of this three year parliament sworn in, the show will move on, and they'll still be the largest party after the next parliamentary election. Only bit in there I'd take issue with is the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act. It passed in the Scottish Parliament on 11 March 2021 - before the last Scottish Parliament election. Nobody had much of a problem with it then. It's only with it coming into force this month that it's been scooped into the whole culture war bullsh*t by UK and international media. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I thought Swinney was leaving at end this cycle? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 If appointing bald frauds is good enough for the #Barclays, then it's good enough for us. 1000 year Swinney Reich please. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 4 minutes ago, RH33 said: I thought Swinney was leaving at end this cycle? If Swinney takes it I think it will be on a short term basis to steady the ship through the general election. I think he will ride off into the sunset in a year to allow someone else 12 months in the job before the Holyrood election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 6 minutes ago, JS_FFC said: I think they’ll end up convincing Swinney to do it until the general election and then hold a proper contest after that. If they were stupid enough to follow that course of action I suspect there would be precious little left to be leader of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Would it really be wise to have Swinney, a man who is probably even more closely associated with Sturgeon than Yousaf was, as leader in the current climate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 4 hours ago, ICTChris said: The sensible approach would be "Give it Swinnsy til end of season" so I fully expect them to do something insane. Give it Swinnsy getting mentioned on TV there. Not very inspiring stuff. Two more years of treading water with a grey wee man who the SNP got bored with last time he was leader. Yawn. Do they have to wait until 2026 for the next Holyrood election to blow away the cobwebs? Edited April 29 by Scary Bear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 The leader of the SNP is very much turning into poisoned chalice territory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 For years, the SNP acted like it was looking out for the people of Scotland, a lot of policy that helped everyone, Tuition and prescription fees, the bedroom tax etc. In the last couple of years, they have come up with some unworkable policy that is hard to swallow for some of its support and is pounced on by the media. Most of that has stemmed from the greens. For him to stand down now and his comments during the weekend, he came across as a damp flannel. Now, the labour/tory coalition will downvote everything put forward to essentially render the current government useless. the new leader needs to be able to come in and show up labour and the Scottish Tory’s for the frauds they are, someone with some fight. That’s not John Swinney. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orfc Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 34 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: Swinney considering standing! Oh god! As if the SNP hasn't enough troubles. What's changed since last year? His family getting on his tits by now? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64671488 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I mean Swinney is a nice guy but just to bald to lead this great nation IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 If there's one person who can end this phase of hysteria and turbulence, and tread some water by imposing some droning, tedious inertness instead, it's this guy. Some may call him a technocrat - I'd say he is a boring fud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 Can't even change the adjectives of 'Very Meh' if Swinney gets the gig! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Give it John Yogi Hughes lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 8 minutes ago, VictorOnopko said: If there's one person who can end this phase of hysteria and turbulence, and tread some water by imposing some droning, tedious inertness instead, it's this guy. Some may call him a technocrat - I'd say he is a boring fud. Like an EPL team appointing Scott Parker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said: With 3 relegations under his belt, what could possibly go wrong? Surely it's shree relegations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) whats the estimated split in the SNP between progressive left/middle zone/conservative right.? approx percentage? Edited April 29 by ScotiaNostra 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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