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I voted Romaine.

The reason politics in Scotland has been reduced to "Indy 2/No to Indy2" is because the Scots Tories have literally nothing else to say, campaign entirely and solely on 'no to indy ref 2' in every single election whether it's Scottish Parliament, Westminster, or (completely bizarrely) Local Government, and the media never challenge them on this because even when the immediate matter being discussed is another policy area, you invariably get Ross or some other SCon gonk piping up with the usual 'concentrate on the day job/obsessed with indi' narrative in an attack on the SG rather than critiquing the policy itself and suggesting what they'd do as an alternative. I will credit SLab of late for being slightly more inclined to talk policy rather than turning every bit of airtime they get into a rant about the constitutional question, but there's no doubt what their attitude to that matter is, so while DRoss and his shower insist on concentrating on nothing but the fight against IndyRef2, SLab just get drowned out and anything Sarwar says always sounds discordant and off on a tangent because it's usually prefaced by a 'No to IndyRef2' soundbite from the official opposition. If you want to know what 'the problem' with SLab is as I see it, and I know I'm not alone in this because I've discussed it with several friends who vote SNP/Green and feel exactly the same way, then I'll explain the fundamental reason why I will not consider voting Labour regardless of what their policies are. We had nearly 10 years of Labour governance at Holyrood, that was against a backdrop of Labour in power at Westminster also. Throughout that time it became abundantly clear that for those of us who grew up under Thatcherism and subsequent Major governments, the idea that things would be so much better in Scotland if only we had Labour governance turned out to be a totally misplaced crock of shite. I'll go back to what I said about Starmer v's Tory government. Just because something is considered 'less bad' than an alternative doesn't mean it should be mistaken for being 'good' or desirable on it's own merits. Were things better under Blair than Thatcher? Yes, I couldn't honestly pretend they weren't, but that in itself does not mean I look back fondly on Blair as a PM or life under his and Dewar/McLeish/McConnell's governments. Throughout that time there was still an overwhelming feeling that Scotland was an afterthought, and all that really mattered to Labour was cementing it's electability south of the border. The straw that broke the camel's back for me was McConnell's total indifference towards Scots opposition to the Iraq fiasco. That more than anything served to show that the question of who or what is in power in London is completely inconsequential, because when push comes to shove they will always suit themselves and totally disregard Scots if it is expedient. The later nonsense with Wendy Alexander being placed under house arrest for going off script, and Johann Lamont standing down citing the same 'Branch Office' issues that SLab's opponents had long lampooned them for just confirmed for me that my view of Labour was 100% accurate. Labour simply can not govern Scotland in Scotland's best interest while it is still a completely anglocentric party that prioritises Westminster electability above all else. Who precisely is leading them, who the policy makers are, who is leading Slab, what Slab's policies are, all of it is rendered completely and utterly inconsequential by the fact that they will, in every instance, do what is good for them to get into and stay in Downing street, even if that is completely at odds with the will of Scots. See Brexit for the latest example of this. This is why I will not, and can not vote for Labour. I am not their priority, so they can not govern in my best interest, and as we've seen any Slab leader who tries to pretend otherwise is talking shite. They'll be slapped back into place immediately if they even dare to think about implementing something in Scotland that makes life more difficult for Labour politicians south of the border. The whole thing is a pantomime.

KRISHNAN!

Only two prime ministers till xmas.

Hearing Lindsay Hoyle has completed his review of last night’s scuffle in the lobbies, and as a result, has reprimanded Ian Blackford

Being serious for a moment, imagine spending your whole life dreaming of being prime minister, preparing for it and always working the angle to get there, then it comes and you immediately kill the Queen, crash the economy and get forced to resign after a month. What a fucking catastrophe of a Human.

Dinnae talk shite, nobody is despised more than the tories. Labour are just a nonentity party up here who have many of the same policies as the tories. Theres at least 3 councils in Scotland (incuding Edinburgh) where the SNP have the largest number of councillers, but where Labour work hand in hand with the fucking Conservatives - something I didnt think I would see in my lifetime. That, on top of their better together lies, is why a lot of people dinnae like Labour nothing to do with the shite in your post.

The problem with Labour is that they put the UK ahead of every single other factor. They jump into bed with the tories at the drop of a hat - see multiple council coalitions. They refuse to work with the SNP (largest party in Scotland) because of the perception it'll create in England. Everything is about winning England because they're fucked without that. And that, of course, is the heart of the problem - everything in UK politics is driven by what England wants and votes for. We get left with the splash back from the campaign in England. f**k that. And f**k Labour. Ian Murray is no better than Alistair Jack. Of course Starmer would be a better PM than Johnson or Truss - but if that's the bar then it requires only a step over rather than a jump. I doubt he'd be much of an improvement on Teresa May. As long as Labour set about preventing self determination they can take their face for a shite. Scotland could be a normal country but these wankers want to prevent that at all costs. f**k off. None of that changes the fact that the Tories are a disgrace.

I mean if folk weren't going to freeze or starve to death in the coming months this would be hilarious. Alas all it does is prove even more that this Union is not fit for purpose for Scotland.

Nobody cares.

Just off the top of my head - My EU citizenship, my freedom of movement, my right to live and work inside the EU, and my previously frequently used ability to buy and sell small items to and from other EU countries, which is now rendered completely impractical and unaffordable by exorbitant tariffs and shipping costs. Oh, and the number of friends I haven't seen in years because they immediately went home to Ireland, Germany, and Poland, in part because the UK's ridiculous 'right to remain' strictures does not consider their UK born children to be UK citizens. But apart from that...

10/10 for the league on Thursday My stellar cup form continues with a 6/10

“What’s the most “Tin Pie” thing you’ve seen in the SPFL?” thread for this.

Johnson, Badenoch, and Braverman all expected to stand. At this point you could nominate Robert Mugabe and position him as the rational, moderate candidate.

This hasn’t even left my deleted items folder from the last time it was used.

Shaun Maloney outlasted this fucker

See Stuart87 for SNP view on a GE. You do realise that the SNP not winning 59/59 doesn't validate your view that Labour will win every seat in Glasgow? I've read through most of your stuff with a degree of patience and the odd sign but this sort of stuff is just bollocks.

You're extrapolating national polls to claim that Labour would win every seat in Glasgow, that's clearly nonsense.

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Genuinely hope this permanently breaks the evil c**t and she spends the rest of her days a whimpering, snivelling husk. What a complete and utter shambles the Tory party and UK based politics are. Need to get them in the bin and get out of this shit show asap.

At this rate Sturgeon will have seen off as many PM’s as the Queen

Just what the country needs right now. Another six months of those wankers stabbing each other in the back to become PM whilst most of us try and decide if we'd rather starve or freeze to death. F'ck the Tories.

I've been looking forward to this page, 1970. My first Cup Final, my first time at Hampden, my first time in Glasgow, my first time in a crush at Mount Florida and the furthest I had ever been from home. And Martin Buchan held up the Cup at the end of it all.

Because Labour set up the NHS doesn't make them 80 years later the same Labour Party. Also you forgot that in "betterment of poorer people" they introduced ESA work capability assessments which have done immeasurable harm to the poor and disabled.

Attacking the SNP and the SNP vision for independence from the left or from a "too nanny state" is fair enough. Using it as an argument against independence and staying in the union is completely mental.

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How wrong we were! Just after this I had to go to down to reception as room key wasn't working. The guy behind the counter gives me a massive smile and asks if the strip I am wearing is this years. I say its last years and he enquire how on earth he knows about saints. "My dad played for them. I live here now but moved to Scotland when my dad played for Raith Rovers, then Livingston then saints..." Only bloody Goran Stanic's son! Told him his old man was a cracking left back.

We had to get our boy Coupar put down a few weeks back, he had cancer in his leg and due to his age the vet strongly advised against amputation. He lasted 6/7 months after the diagnosis which is pretty good from what the vet said. He deteriorated rapidly, from running around in the back garden like a dafty on the Saturday afternoon to being unable bear any weight on his leg by Sunday afternoon. I was a mess for 24 hours or so and my work were superb to be fair to them. Still expecting him to come running to come to the back door when I go to my parents

Of course Labour would be better than the Tories. They're still Unionist, Rule Britannia, No voting pricks though.

I certainly hope he gets a game soon and this eye bleeding chat can end.

Well if anyone's going to know how to bring something back from the dead...

I think they are all in a strategy meeting with Dawson Park Boy......still salivating over Kwatengs "Brilliant Budget at the right time"

You should learn that "something somebody said once" is not the same as party policy. FWIW there are clearly Labour MPs and parliamentarians who have a reasonble grasp of immigration but their voices are not forming policy. Ah you've fucked up here. Party orthodoxy is Labour had to vote for the shitey deal or it would have had to have been no deal. Which also isn't true. And reaching back into the mists of 2018/19 to the "a" customs union versus "the" customs union without single market membership was emblematic of the problem. Labour could not commit itself to the decisions which they knew to be right for fear of upsetting their leave vote. And in the end this cowardly and nonsensical fudging offended both leave and remain.

Hopefully she cries herself to sleep every night over what a massive failure shes been.

It's an utter disgrace that they can just pick somebody else in a week. What the f**k was months of waiting last time? Why on Earth should the British public trust the people who brought in Truss to somehow or another manage to bring in somebody better in a week? It's a pisstake. I've never really been pro or anti independence but I'm 100% swinging towards independence thanks to the joke of the Government for the last few years. Get the Tories out and never let them back in.

Does anyone know if Truss is meeting Graham Brady?

Odd phrasing. Should they cling on until January 2025, no they absolutely fucking shouldn't. Can they? Yes, they absolutely can and that's largely because the clowns you cheerlead gifted them an enormous majority and that the UK, who you also like to get the pom-poms out for is a tinpot nonsense pretendy sort of a democracy that shares an electoral system with Belarus.

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