Bainsfordbairn Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 40 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said: Was CC a 2 year deal? CC? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 3 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said: CC? Crunchy Carrots 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 4 hours ago, RC55 FFC said: I think where we are just now (3rd tier) we need to make sure costs are tight & we make as much money as we can from these sort of deals. I’d be keen to know if the Greaves deal outweighs doing it for ourselves. Maybe it’s value for money. I know how much we used to make on a shirt (from supporting the management committee for 2/3 seasons) and it wasn’t a lot of cash, so god knows what PUMA were charging in 2023. It’s no wonder the price hit £50 retail, prob just so the club made a bit on them. O’Neills produce in the UK/IRE I’m sure versus the PUMA Turkey factory. That will surely help with cost price, delivery timescale & minimum numbers that need to be ordered. Manufacturing costs in Turkey will be lower than Ireland / UK but O’Neill will be able to offer greater flexibility in turnaround times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsfordbairn Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 7 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Crunchy Carrots Cheers. I was thinking of players. It was announced as one year to begin with and neither side have commented as to whether it was extended or expired. (at least not that I've seen). BAIRNS ANNOUNCE CRUNCHY CARROTS AS NEW FRONT OF SHIRT PARTNER! - Falkirk Football Club (falkirkfc.co.uk) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan-FFC Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 minute ago, Reggie Perrin said: Manufacturing costs in Turkey will be lower than Ireland / UK but O’Neill will be able to offer greater flexibility in turnaround times. Also minimum order quantities were quite high from puma - O’Neills are better in this area as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ecosse83 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) Just been told through a 3rd party that the Rice thinks Maciver will be a very good signing for us. The 3rd party knows him very well so pretty reliable. Alloa were desperate to keep a hold of him! Hopefully that’s the case and I have to well and truly eat my words Edited June 3 by Ecosse83 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brockvillenomore Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 59 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said: Cheers. I was thinking of players. It was announced as one year to begin with and neither side have commented as to whether it was extended or expired. (at least not that I've seen). BAIRNS ANNOUNCE CRUNCHY CARROTS AS NEW FRONT OF SHIRT PARTNER! - Falkirk Football Club (falkirkfc.co.uk) I’m 99% sure Jamie Swinney said at the recognition night that they had renewed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big chungus Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 hour ago, Ecosse83 said: Just been told through a 3rd party that the Rice thinks Maciver will be a very good signing for us. The 3rd party knows him very well so pretty reliable. Alloa were desperate to keep a hold of him! Hopefully that’s the case and I have to well and truly eat my words I think MacIver will be a good signing as well. He’s most likely not going to get us 20 goals, however I have a feeling he’ll become somewhat of a fans favourite. All being said, we still desperately need another striker. Euan Henderson from hearts maybe? I remember Alloa fans saying Henderson and MacIver up top was a smashing partnership. However, once again this would rely on Mcglynn playing two up top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Blair Alston released by Kilmarnock… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 16 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: Blair Alston released by Kilmarnock… Not surprised by that, I was shocked when they signed him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 26 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: Blair Alston released by Kilmarnock… That’s a no 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Freemason Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 12 minutes ago, Harry Kinnear said: Not surprised by that, I was shocked when they signed him. They certainly got more out of him than we did (second time around). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Alston was always a player that flattered to deceive a bit for me even in his first spell. Capable of the odd wonder strike but too many games passed him by. Think the chances of him returning are pretty much zero. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) I am a great believer in the saying "if you don't ask, you don't get" so as I was concerned about us doling out 2 year deals again I got in touch with FSS and asked the question. The reply is a FSS viewpoint, not an official club statement. Hi There, I am emailing to ask if the FSS members on the board are taking a position or monitoring the manager signing players on 2 year deals? Much was made of the fact that when Gary Holt was the DOF he signed quite a number of players on 2 year deals and that meant that when things went badly for Paul Sheerin and he was sacked that any incoming manager was tied to working with players that a) they never signed and b) didn't fit into their playing style plans. I get the impression that this was partially used as an excuse for John McGlynn not achieving promotion last season. Yet, here we are, a year down the line and the manager has given 2 year deals to Aidan Nesbitt and Ross MacIver. Surely 1 year deals with a 1 year option are much more sensible for us next season, particularly as I would imagine that if John McGlynn doesn't achieve promotion for us next season that he will be gone, leaving behind players with another year left on their deal that an incoming manager will have to work with? I would have thought that we would have learned our lesson by now? I look forward to your reply. Kind Regards, BiE The reply Hi BiE Apologies for any delay in reply as things have been a bit hectic with the recent successful FSS fan bank loan announcement activities and several of the committee being on holiday. We have regular monthly meetings with our fans directors [ next Wednesday ] and this question will be raised with them. On the general question of individual player contracts, I would think this would be a matter for the club management alone and all the exact details would not be made public.I would think his squad will have a mix of 1 year/2 year deals and also loans and it is possible that the "2 year" contracts may have some kind of clauses based on promotion etc. built into them but all contracts are a result of personal negotiations. I hope this helps. Best regards Edited June 3 by Bairn in Exile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 3 hours ago, Bainsfordbairn said: Cheers. I was thinking of players. It was announced as one year to begin with and neither side have commented as to whether it was extended or expired. (at least not that I've seen). BAIRNS ANNOUNCE CRUNCHY CARROTS AS NEW FRONT OF SHIRT PARTNER! - Falkirk Football Club (falkirkfc.co.uk) It was extended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 hour ago, Bairn in Exile said: I am a great believer in the saying "if you don't ask, you don't get" so as I was concerned about us doling out 2 year deals again I got in touch with FSS and asked the question. The reply is a FSS viewpoint, not an official club statement. Hi There, I am emailing to ask if the FSS members on the board are taking a position or monitoring the manager signing players on 2 year deals? Much was made of the fact that when Gary Holt was the DOF he signed quite a number of players on 2 year deals and that meant that when things went badly for Paul Sheerin and he was sacked that any incoming manager was tied to working with players that a) they never signed and b) didn't fit into their playing style plans. I get the impression that this was partially used as an excuse for John McGlynn not achieving promotion last season. Yet, here we are, a year down the line and the manager has given 2 year deals to Aidan Nesbitt and Ross MacIver. Surely 1 year deals with a 1 year option are much more sensible for us next season, particularly as I would imagine that if John McGlynn doesn't achieve promotion for us next season that he will be gone, leaving behind players with another year left on their deal that an incoming manager will have to work with? I would have thought that we would have learned our lesson by now? I look forward to your reply. Kind Regards, BiE The reply Hi BiE Apologies for any delay in reply as things have been a bit hectic with the recent successful FSS fan bank loan announcement activities and several of the committee being on holiday. We have regular monthly meetings with our fans directors [ next Wednesday ] and this question will be raised with them. On the general question of individual player contracts, I would think this would be a matter for the club management alone and all the exact details would not be made public.I would think his squad will have a mix of 1 year/2 year deals and also loans and it is possible that the "2 year" contracts may have some kind of clauses based on promotion etc. built into them but all contracts are a result of personal negotiations. I hope this helps. Best regards While I totally agree that the board shouldn’t be telling the manager who he can’t and can’t sign, surely there has to be some oversight of contract terms. Particularly when you’ve got a manager who could very well be out the door before some of his signings. Otherwise you can easily end up with duds on inflated wages and extended contracts like Holt left us with. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 21 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said: While I totally agree that the board shouldn’t be telling the manager who he can’t and can’t sign, surely there has to be some oversight of contract terms. Particularly when you’ve got a manager who could very well be out the door before some of his signings. Otherwise you can easily end up with duds on inflated wages and extended contracts like Holt left us with. Its comparing night and day when your comparing Holt and McGlynn to each other plus another take on it is if a player becomes a saleable asset if there was a chance to get money for Nesbitt regardless how much or Morrison then it allows to bring in better or that would be my take on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 1 hour ago, PedroMoutinho said: While I totally agree that the board shouldn’t be telling the manager who he can’t and can’t sign, surely there has to be some oversight of contract terms. Particularly when you’ve got a manager who could very well be out the door before some of his signings. Otherwise you can easily end up with duds on inflated wages and extended contracts like Holt left us with. I’ve previously brought this up only to be told it’s McGlynns budget to decide who’s coming in (and going out) and agree to a certain extent. My previous points raised that in any business I’ve managed there’s set approval/sign off for any revenue spend/expenditure. Im flabbergasted that any BOD isn’t involved directly or indirectly with any transactions that may put the club at risk ( and we must be in the top three for that) Nesbitts two year deal is so wrong for me, and if the BOD have sat back without challenging, is a huge concern. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hughsie Posted June 3 Popular Post Share Posted June 3 3 hours ago, Bairn in Exile said: I am a great believer in the saying "if you don't ask, you don't get" so as I was concerned about us doling out 2 year deals again I got in touch with FSS and asked the question. The reply is a FSS viewpoint, not an official club statement. Hi There, I am emailing to ask if the FSS members on the board are taking a position or monitoring the manager signing players on 2 year deals? Much was made of the fact that when Gary Holt was the DOF he signed quite a number of players on 2 year deals and that meant that when things went badly for Paul Sheerin and he was sacked that any incoming manager was tied to working with players that a) they never signed and b) didn't fit into their playing style plans. I get the impression that this was partially used as an excuse for John McGlynn not achieving promotion last season. Yet, here we are, a year down the line and the manager has given 2 year deals to Aidan Nesbitt and Ross MacIver. Surely 1 year deals with a 1 year option are much more sensible for us next season, particularly as I would imagine that if John McGlynn doesn't achieve promotion for us next season that he will be gone, leaving behind players with another year left on their deal that an incoming manager will have to work with? I would have thought that we would have learned our lesson by now? I look forward to your reply. Kind Regards, BiE The reply Hi BiE Apologies for any delay in reply as things have been a bit hectic with the recent successful FSS fan bank loan announcement activities and several of the committee being on holiday. We have regular monthly meetings with our fans directors [ next Wednesday ] and this question will be raised with them. On the general question of individual player contracts, I would think this would be a matter for the club management alone and all the exact details would not be made public.I would think his squad will have a mix of 1 year/2 year deals and also loans and it is possible that the "2 year" contracts may have some kind of clauses based on promotion etc. built into them but all contracts are a result of personal negotiations. I hope this helps. Best regards Mortifying that you emailed them that. 38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioBairn Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 14 minutes ago, Springfield said: I’ve previously brought this up only to be told it’s McGlynns budget to decide who’s coming in (and going out) and agree to a certain extent. My previous points raised that in any business I’ve managed there’s set approval/sign off for any revenue spend/expenditure. Im flabbergasted that any BOD isn’t involved directly or indirectly with any transactions that may put the club at risk ( and we must be in the top three for that) Nesbitts two year deal is so wrong for me, and if the BOD have sat back without challenging, is a huge concern. Please tell me you are not suggesting that the board should be deciding who gets a new contract and over ruling the manager? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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