Boo Khaki Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 So that's Wragg resigned the whip. Does this still result in a referral to the Standards Committee, or is that only when the whip is withdrawn due to inappropriate behaviour? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Boo Khaki said: So that's Wragg resigned the whip. Does this still result in a referral to the Standards Committee, or is that only when the whip is withdrawn due to inappropriate behaviour? I'd assume as he is still a sitting MP it would still need to be investigated. He was standing down at GE anyway, so I'd imagine at this late stage, they'll softly let him see out the next few months, rather than do anything that might cause a by-election. Even if he left tomorrow, you are talking June at earliest for a by election and then parliament would shut down a few weeks later for Summer. If no GE called by then, you'd probably get a month or two at best post summer before it is called. Financially pointless to run the cost of a by election for say 60-80 days of parliament sitting max. Wragg is more stupid that anything else, but just another indication of the low quality in parliament at the moment. Any punter would see the red flags and if you are a sitting MP, you should be even more alert. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Standards Committee might lead to a few more revelations with regard to exactly who else was involved, which I think is the prevalent factor in why Wragg wasn't thrown to the wolves by his own party, rather than fear of a by-election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 10 hours ago, Theyellowbox said: Any punter would see the red flags Not with this Labour lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 10 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: Standards Committee might lead to a few more revelations with regard to exactly who else was involved, which I think is the prevalent factor in why Wragg wasn't thrown to the wolves by his own party, rather than fear of a by-election. There's more to this than has already been admitted, it just feels that way. If he's admitted what he has admitted, but also said "they had stuff on me", and has resigned the whip, it stinks of a ploy to avoid further scrutiny (which I'm sure the press are still doing). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Michelle Donelan's libel costs were £34k, more than double the amount the government claimed but Angela Raynor something something something. Michelle Donelan used £34,000 of taxpayer funds to cover libel costs https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/11/michelle-donelan-used-34000-of-taxpayer-funds-to-cover-libel-costs?CMP=share_btn_url 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 not everyones cup of tea, but this was in my recommended https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68782418 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 10/04/2024 at 10:19, Boghead ranter said: There's more to this than has already been admitted, it just feels that way. If he's admitted what he has admitted, but also said "they had stuff on me", and has resigned the whip, it stinks of a ploy to avoid further scrutiny (which I'm sure the press are still doing). Graham Stuart resigned from Government today for no apparent reason whatsoever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I'm so sorry, I know this is puerile, but... Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leith Green Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Tories on the radio this morning saying that they think that "education and tax" are a way to deter young people from smoking - as opposed to Sunaks* idea of making it illegal to sell fags to people under a certain age. I wonder if any of those who walk into the other lobby are in the pockets of Big Tobacco? *I am not a big fan of the guy, but its inarguable that this is sensible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: Tories on the radio this morning saying that they think that "education and tax" are a way to deter young people from smoking - as opposed to Sunaks* idea of making it illegal to sell fags to people under a certain age. I wonder if any of those who walk into the other lobby are in the pockets of Big Tobacco? *I am not a big fan of the guy, but its inarguable that this is sensible. I don't see the "tobacco lobby" giving up without a fight. I hope that the press pay very close attention to the public statements and voting records of politicians as this develops and compares them with donations to political parties and individuals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1780700332475273652?t=SrKsINd0XGdVaw6XXYyERQ&s=19 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) So what was Mark Menzies actually doing? A very weird description of events, essentially insinuating he was kidnapped. Coke or hookers that he hadn't paid for IMO. Edited April 18 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Michael W said: So what was Mark Menzies actually doing? A very weird description of events, essentially insinuating he was kidnapped. Coke or hookers that he hadn't paid for IMO. Nothing surprises any more re tory MP's. They know that the end of the line is soon approaching so it's every man for himself and f**k the women and children first shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Michael W said: So what was Mark Menzies actually doing? A very weird description of events, essentially insinuating he was kidnapped. Coke or hookers that he hadn't paid for IMO. Are male prostitutes known as "hookers" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592478/Tory-MP-Mark-Menzies-quits-drug-rent-boy-claims.html sorry for using the Mail but I reckon it gives an insight as to why he had to come up with 5 grand sharpish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scottsdad Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 56 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: Are male prostitutes known as "hookers" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592478/Tory-MP-Mark-Menzies-quits-drug-rent-boy-claims.html sorry for using the Mail but I reckon it gives an insight as to why he had to come up with 5 grand sharpish. When I was a kid, we used to get a barber coming to our house. He'd bring his stuff, cut our hair and leave. He was married with kids. My dad arrested him one day in public toilets in Stirling for hiring rent boys. When he told my mum, and I overheard him, this was the first time I'd ever heard the phrase. After that we went to barber shops again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Quote Last night, a Tory source said the MP would be ‘getting help with personal issues’ in the wake of the claims. You get caught hiring prostitutes and doing cocaine I have "personal issues" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 minutes ago, ICTChris said: You get caught hiring prostitutes and doing cocaine I have "personal issues" A valuable lesson on irregular verbs from ""Yes, Prime Minister" comes to mind.... "James Hacker : I occasionally have confidential press briefings, but I have never leaked. Bernard Woolley : Oh, that's another of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I give confidential press briefings; you leak; he's been charged under Section 2a of the Official Secrets Act." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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